OGIUAndy

Why would he not end up at IU? Just curious.

https://basketballmuseumofillinois.com/bardo-craig-2002/ https://iuhoosiers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/craig -bardo/10091

For the most part, I watch games without audio.

IU 45 MSU 24

I think paying him 20M will be his justification. Same if he wins the last two. Honestly, it's probably smarter to not blow that much money unless you have a slam dunk hire lined up. It is after all, IUFB we're talking about. If people really want investment in the program, that 20M would be better spent in NIL , assistant coaches, or for the new coach.

This also indicates how much he's under-performed his contract. He signed it in 2020 and was immediately terrible in 2021 (I understand there were a ton of injuries that year). Now he's been terrible for three straight seasons. Very on point for the IU football brand. We somehow can't have nice things. EDIT: I wanted to add that I was pretty optimistic this season even though I knew starting a RS QB would be a work in progress. Now the QB is solidified and playing fairly well, the defense has decided to take the rest of the season off. I think that's the biggest issue and always has been. IU can never be good at both offense or defense in the same season or game. Very odd.

Now you've convinced me. He will NOT be fired.

IU 100 Army 60

Come on!!! Let's win this one!!!!

I agree that if Maryland were the clear favorite, seems like he would have announced by now. The longer this drags out the better for IU or maybe a sleeper team. For arguments sake, let's say he was an IU favorite early on, I would be nervous. Could mean nothing at all though. I guess we'll find out sooner than later. Unlike the Archie years, I am not as worried about recruiting tbh.

Yes I have. It's exhausting but yet here I am, still a fan and rooting on the team through the thick and the mostly thin. If CTA pulls out the last three, that would be pretty amazing considering what has transpired this season. I just don't see it, but take one game at a time. So ILL first and foremost. Do whatever you have to do to pull that one out.

I think the key here is the last sentence. IU needs to be able to beat Rutgers, Maryland and PU every other year if not more otherwise we're no better now than we've ever been. Staying close to the big boys is great and all, but if you can't beat the others, you're screwed every year. MSU will be good again sooner than later. But the schedules are going to be way different now, but IU will get hosed per usual. With or without divisions, the BIG will saddle us with the big boys to make sure they have good conference records.

Therein lies the overall problem. We've looked good a couple of weeks against good to not so good teams, but against other "good" or "not so good" teams we were not competitive for more than a quarter. How do they compete on the road a against a top ten team but get destroyed at home by other average to below average programs? It's hard to pinpoint besides CTA since he's the lead guy. I guess just the number of new players we brought in? But that seems to be the way it's going to be every year, so if that's an issue, they need to figure out how to get everyone on the same page a lot quicker. I understand what CTA brought to the program, but consistency or "optimism" hasn't been here for 3 seasons. We're always 3-6 or worse with our backs against the wall, never .500 with a reasonable chance to go to a bowl game without having to "win out". But if he wins out I will be the first to come here and kiss his arse. It's very doable, none of the teams left have a powerhouse offense so we should be able to actually win a game or two, I would be amazed if we won two games on the road.

My most recent concern with CTA is a QB recruit from Indiana said our practices were a "sh*show". That's not what you want to hear from a recruit.

We have not won a bowl game since '91. CTA has won three BIG games in three years, including yesterday's win. That's not good. I will say if he gets us to 5 or 6 wins he probably doesn't not get canned (especially 6). But let's be real honest, he hasn't shown us much as a head coach.

He looks skilled but very soft and physically weak. He's going to have to get a lot tougher and stronger to have above average succes in the BT. I like his shooting touch and he's very long, but he seems pretty weak at the basket.

Agree with this. Conferences don't mean anything anymore. Sooner or later OSU and Michigan are going want to split the revenue, so eventually something will have to change. People joking around about IU getting "kicked out" of the Big Ten might not be that far off.

Would he dare go to another Big Ten school? That would be really wild. I would he gets a call although his momentum at NW was slowing down.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/10/27/23935267/jamarcus-ellis-westinghouse-basketball-chicago-dead Didn't think Sun Times was behind a paywall. Sorry. Car crash. Hit a pillar of a viaduct. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/former-iu-basketball-player-jamarcus-ellis-has-passed-away/

But this is all hypothetical and Gruden and Meyer are not coming to IU, even though at times I myself have brought them up to stir the pot. ARE would definitely be interested I am sure of it. He's definitely an IU guy. That being said, who else would be? That's the real question. For those promoting ARE, what about Justin Frye? He's the other IU guy supposedly being pushed. But ARE certainly wouldn't be worse than Allen. If you gave him a reasonable contract it could be a good flyer. However, most of the HC's in the Big Ten are very accomplished. Even "lower level" teams have very experienced coaches, at a program like IU you are already at a huge disadvantage and you hire a guy with no HC experience and only 4 years as an NFL assistant. That's a big reach. Then you you may have to fire one of your legends. Maybe it doesn't matter tbh. But it seems like ARE would be better served going to a place like Ball State or Bowling Green for a couple years or getting promoted to OC in the NFL then taking the IU job. Regardless, if IU hired ARE, I would support him even though it would reek of desperation. He's the greatest IUFB player ever (sorry AT). But comparing this situation to IUBB+Woody is a huge stretch. Woody was in the NBA for 25 years as both an assistant and head coach. Although I agree one doesn't need college coaching/recruiting experience, I think it's a huge plus if you've lead a program (as a coach) or at least called plays. When it's all said and done, it really comes down to who wants the job. It literally could be just a few dudes. I do get a kick out of all of this, so take no offense to any of my opinions. I just want some buzz and a reasonable amount of success.

This is all great and stuff, but passion doesn't win you games, look at CTA. As for the rest ...guy that knows football -- offense, defense, special teams. Has an offensive philosophy. And a defensive philosophy. That lives and breaths the stuff I have no idea if ARE has any of this. And Whether he's put a practice together isn't dispositive -- the dude in line at Kilroy's can figure that out. So why did a recruit say that CTA's practices were a "sh*t show" if the dude in line at Kilroy's can figure it out?

Take a look at his Twitter profile and his last retweet: https://twitter.com/therealrandleel?lang=en I am not against religion or faith it's just not my thing when it comes to sports. Mostly I just don't think he's done enough to be handed the reigns.

He's a very religious guy. I have had my fill of that and I think its benefit to a football program is short lived and extremely limiting. It was said CTA wasn't interested in hiring Justin Frye because he cussed too much. If true, that's ridiculous. We're talking about football here, not bible study. A coach or player's talent shouldn't be dismissed because they don't go to church. I'm not saying IU should hire a huge dirtbag either. I would be semi ok with ARE if he had a great staff. I loved him as a player. And if he and others with a direct connection to the program are the only interested candidates, so be it. But hiring ARE as the head guy would be a huge gamble that I am not sure IU can currently take the chance on. Just my two cents.

Sorry, I just can't get on board with a guy who's never lead any sort of program. His staff better be amazing. I am also leery of a person who may not enjoy cussing from his assistant coaches if you catch my drift. I know that's a touchy subject on these boards, but it's just not my cup of tea when it comes to head coaches.

And by obvious, I meant obviously he'd only been the head guy for a high school. His lack of running a bigger type of program shows in many ways. IU, no matter what they do or who they hire, CANNOT and will not go down that road again any time soon. If they do, we as fans should 100% not care at all anymore. This is a huge hire to get right. Not everyone has to agree with it 100% but it can't be a hire that 80% off the fans are not on board with.