JerryYeagley23

I’ll tell you this, assuming we do get in the tourney, I PRAY that we get in a region with Auburn as the 3/4 seed with West Virginia a 4/5 seed. I’ve watched several games from both teams, and they would be a SOFT 3-5 seed.

I guess I just like to hear others thoughts to help balance out my own thoughts, which are that MSU’s resume is not 4-5 seeds better than IUs. Respect your opinion on this stuff USPS, so will defer to you. Just doesn’t seem like projections are justified when you look at the body of work. If MSU wasn’t considered a pre-season Top Five team, I don’t think they would be getting these projections.

Consensus? I know you and others have noted the major sources like ESPN as not being very accurate, but still gets the most publicity and shapes public opinion about teams I think. They have IU as a 10-seed as of this morning.

You’re right. I was thinking Gavitt Games and had neutral site in my head but that was at Seton Hall. So, better to have one good road win in non-conf. than to have two good neutral site wins and a good home win? Just doesn’t add up to me to be a 5-seed resume and a 10-11-seed resume when compared to IU. Trouble seeing that much of a difference.

Do neutral court games count as toad wins? Because I only see MSU with true road wins @NW, @Minny, @ILL and @Neb.

Posed the question in detail in the bracketology thread, but watching MSU down 8 at home to Iowa. How is MSU a projected 5-seed and IU is projected an 11-seed play-in game? -Same 18-9 record. -If Sparty loses to Iowa, they will have lost 5 of their last 7. (and with @Maryland, @PSU and OSU left, might lose 8 of 10 to close) -5 of their B1G wins have come against NW, Minny and NEB. -Only good out of conference win is Seton Hall Why are they considered so much higher a seed than an IU? I don’t see the difference between us and them being as big as a 5-seed and an 11-seed.

Quick question to help me understand better. Can someone explain to me the difference between us and Michigan St. that has them ranked #24 in the AP polls and projected as a 5-seed, while Indiana is on and off the bubble and projected as a 10-11 seed? Because I’m looking at MSU and seeing that they’ve lost 4 of their last 6 games. As we speak, they’re losing at home at the half to Iowa, so this discussion may evolve based on that outcome. But overall, they’re an identical record to IU at 18-9. Out of conference, their games of note were: UK - (L) Seton Hall - (W) Va. Tech - (L) Duke - (L) So, they have the same overall record as IU, and IU’s non-conference games of note look like this: FSU - (W) Arkansas - (L) UCONN - (W) ND - (W) Yea, they are 10-6 in the B1G right now to IU’s 8-8; but they’ve played NW and Minny twice each and Nebraska once. So five of their B1G wins have come against the bottom three teams in the conference. In addition to some general discussion about what makes MSU a 5-seed and IU an 11-seed on the bubble, I’d also love to hear what people believe is the floor for MSU, given after tonight’s game against Iowa, their remaining schedule is @Maryland, @PSU, and home against OSU. Where would Sparty end up if they lose out, seeing them end the season losers of 8 out of 10 and an 18-13 record. Would they be an 11-seed in a play-in game, or still safely in with an 8-9 seed?

Man, I want to buy into these numbers and vault this kid into my #1 wish list spot, but they’re just so gawdy. I mean, who goes for 38 points and 23 rebs?? My hesitation though, is, would I be shocked to see the statistic of Avg. Opponent Height for Aminu’s HS competition? Because my stats against my fifth grade nephew in the driveway look pretty similar, but deserve the same potential asterisk.

Oooooo. Conflicting sources. The plot thickens.

It would be frustrating if it were surprising. Our starting five coming out of the second half has done this for ten plus games now. It’s not hard to see. If you’re paid to prevent it from happening you would make the simple adjustment.

Archie just doesn’t learn. Second half lineup consistently keeps teams in games, or causes us to lose touch of a game.

IU was favored by 1 yesterday. Line had moved to PSU -1 this morning.

Yep. Pretty much assures us the 4-seed for the B1G tourney. Does anyone know, is the ESPN standings accurate that NW holds the tie breaker over Maryland and would be the 1-seed?? That would be a big break for IU, as I’d much rather have a potential matchup on a neutral court with NW than Maryland in the semis.

Wow. Thank goodness Grace Berger stepped up in the 4th quarter to give Ali a little support. Minnys’s starting 5 scoring: 12, 14, 11, 21, 8 IU’s: 8, 0, 8, 18, 28 Need more balance come tourney time.

So yet another game not televised for me. But it looks from the gamecast that Ali is the only one who brought her game with her to the Barn huh? We started the season with such great balance and contributions from different girls. Penn and Wise have been really inconsistent from game to game.

Matt Painter must have had money on the Over. Purdue started fouling Mich every possession starting at the 2:20 mark left in the game when down 12. Must have been 20 free throws shot in the last 1:20. It’s taken 20-25 minutes of real time and there’s still :43 left. P.S. Purdue just fouled on the inbound pass down 8 with 6.3 seconds left. Sheesh.

So how many spots will Purdue move UP in the NET rankings after losing today and struggling to break 40 points while falling to .500 overall on the season?

Lot of action in the B1G today. Huge momentum games for IU and OSU. With the Lady Hoosiers dropping that game at home to OSU, they need the win at Minny today pretty badly. OSU plays at Rutgers, who has been really good at home. Both IU and OSU are 10-5 in conference. An IU win and and OSU loss today more than likely locks us into the 4-seed in the conference tourney. Double bye and one winnable game before having to face Maryland in the semis.

Makes sense. Get him there for Little 500 weekend! :)

This was my other concern, but didn’t want to jinx anything. Was going to add to my original post, “unless it would be a good time to get to know the coaches and guys on the team since we aren’t playing anymore in late March.”

Would think an OV without the opportunity to attend a game, if the “after 3/14” timeline holds true, would not be ideal. Game atmosphere in AH being a big selling point.

This is a really great tool, thanks so much for sharing. The tie-breakers really don’t help us in many cases. I have us as the 8-10 seed, with the most likely scenario that we land in the 10 seed against Michigan.

Agreed about the bubble. Last night was an enormous win for IU, not only because of the quad 1 road win, but just in relation to what it could have meant for trajectory and the smell test. I’m with you on the likelihood that even 1 more W in the regular season and 1 in the B1G tourney still gets us in. There has been sooo much publicity about the strength of the B1G, that even at 8-12 in conference, an 18-win IU probably still gets in. Especially when you consider this, MSU has remaining games @Maryland and @PSU, and home games against Iowa and OSU. If they lose two of those, which I see as likely, they would end up the regular season at 20-11, and they’re being projected as a 5-7 seed. There just can’t be such a chasm between two losses between B1G teams given everyone recognizes how strong 10 of the 12 teams are, or have the potential to be any given night. I think we get at least 2 more wins (and call me crazy but I think one will be at Purdue), and will be safely in with a 10-seed floor. Last night kept us from a potential end of season collapse “look” that would have presented poorly. Make sure no losing streak is now than two games from here out and it will show we’re still competing and aren’t in free fall which would give talking heads something to complain about if we got selected coming in losing 6 straight.

Which in my opinion should be his role. To come in off the bench and provide good stretches. But if we want to get off to better starts in games and in second halves, the TJD/Race combination is a better offensive and defensive team.

I saw it too, and don’t know for sure either way, but it easily could have been like a “get outta here man,” way of saying it, kind of responding to a ribbing from your teammate saying “come on bro, you gotta dunk that” (semi tongue in cheek giving him a hard time)