Brass Cannon

  He didn't really build Marquette though, I think at the time they were a little to forgiving on that aspect.  He didn't make the tourney until his 3rd year.  He peaked in his 4th year(sound familiar) and then proceeded to not do much of anything.  Other than the one fluke final 4 run they had more success before and after him. 

  To be fair if being to a final four wasn't the criteria, what was the criteria for finding Crean?  A fanbase that was wanting him gone?  Underachievement? 

Whats really sad is that in the topic I think over 10 names have been mentioned and the worst thing people have said is that it would be a lateral move.   I think its also important to look at these guys who are building solid teams but struggling in the tourney in the proper context.  Are they struggling in the tournament because they are running into teams that are also well coached but just have more talent?  Because thats not a problem they should face here.    Bennett, lost to MSU last 2 years.  Losing to Izzo in the postseason thats not deal breaker at all to me. Drew also ran into the buzzsaw that is MSU and also a very talented Maryland team last year. Chris Macks are a little less defensible, loss to Arizona and NC State   So alot of these candidates will give us what we want, more consistency in the regular season(Something Crean has never done) and hopefully with the higher talent level they can draw to bloomington that will lead to more tourney success.    What I would look for in a guy is consistency in the regular season and neutral court record.  Somebody who is good with the X's and O's but could use some help drawing in some elite recruits.  These are things that Davis and Crean lacked.  Sampson had them, he just didn't have ethics.    Honestly, it looks to me like Mack, Drew and Bennett would be fine candidates.  And given the right circumstances I could see all of them being successful here.  Stevens is plan A B and C.  But those aren't bad options either.    I haven't watched Enfield lately but I refuse to be impressed by beating Alford.  But thats not to say he couldn't be successful here, I just don't have an opinion.    I personally would call Stevens and Donovan first, Stevens because of his hometown connection and Donovan just because if that Thunder team falls apart he might be looking for an out who knows really.  We would have to try.  Then try the good candidates still among the college ranks. 

He hasn't been able to win the MVC in like 6 years?  Don't see him building a consistent winner. 

  Not much less success than we have had with far fewer resources. 

That says to me he's more than interested

We need to find a great in game coach who has struggled to get the players he needs for his system.

Yep I gave Crean 5 years before my support waned.

We better offer to double BSs salary.

  I mean hes had 8 years, I think its realistic at this point that he should have gotten the ship righted

Whoever was hated more, does it really matter.  Isn't the problem that our last 3 coaches are either completely despised or on the way there?  Should we maybe get rid of one before it reaches that point. 

  They haven't really been exciting to watch for causal fans since Reggie left really.  Great defense might win championships but it doesn't fill the stands till you have won something. 

Troy reminds me of Rodney Stuckey.  They used to say Future stuckey because he was so streaky.  Troy needs a change, but not pro.  He needs to graduate and transfer somewhere else with a better teacher for a coach.  Somebody who can teach him the actual game of basketball. 

  He had an ok offensive night.  There are two sides of the game, unless you play for IU

  Thats what did Watford in his senior year, had a buddy who was a bouncer at Sports and he saw Watford there 4 or 5 nights a week. 

  Hes played us tough with far less talent.  He may be worse, but I doubt it much

  He hardly played well, he hit fewer than half his shots, turned it over 3 times and his D has never been something to write home about. 

The swoon has arrived

  Pathetic that I want to suffer now to have a better performance later?  Its what UK did, they didn't settle for mediocrity they kept changing till they found their guy.  And since our AD won't make a change we need to force him to..

  I'm really struggling to find one that is worse.  The Gophers have played us way tougher than their talent should have allowed.  Penn State beat us because of being outcoached.  Eddie Jordan maybe below him, but not so sure. 

  Crean has done just as much if not more damage than Davis.

  Why let him hurt the team by playing in the first place.  How long has it been since Good Troy was even a 50/50 occurrence. 

Well I think I am to the point where I want us to lose the next 7 because that might force them to actually consider making a change.  Its not like we are going to do anything this year anyway.  We can't do squat away from the Hall

Continuing to play Troy shows me some possibilities.   1.  Crean is the worst coach in the Big Ten 2.  He is under absolutely no pressure to actually perform as a head coach   or the much more likely possibility   3.  BOTH

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