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The way I read his initial post was hypothetical. The two elite P5 jobs he was talking about were Texas and IU (if he's hired here)... and what I understood his point to be was that IF he gets the IU job and IF he screws the pooch again, he'd be done - he would have screwed up at two elite P5 schools (TX and IU)... but maybe I read it wrong.

Nah, they pulled the Beard stuff out into it's own thread...

He won't come... we have NIL...

Assuming you meant "Mike Davis or John Treloar"... surely Woodson wasn't in the running that early... he was an assistant with the Cavaliers in 1999-2001... But thanks for sharing...

If my granny had balls she'd be my pappaw... it is what it is... we can't change the past, we can (hopefully) only learn from it.

Yeah... we're still living that dream from last time (Mediocre Mike Woodson).

I would hope/expect them to be here: https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/here-are-the-eight-iu-basketball-players-going-through-senior-day-on-saturday/ https://www.insidethehall.com/

I thought there were a few livestreams last years from some of the IU basketball blogs... I'm sure more info will get out soon...

There are two parts to this... forgiveness and accountability. Just because you said "I'm sorry" doesn't absolve you accountability for your actions. The event was investigated and documented. UT saw fit to terminate him over the event. He walked away rather than challenge them for the buyout money. All of those factors say something to me. The DA ultimately dropped the charges. There could be any number of reasons for that. And he has not been convicted of anything in relation to that episode. We're only 2 years removed from that alcohol-fueled event, and if one is to believe the reports on the internet (yeah, could be suspect/spun/exaggerated), it doesn't appear that the alcohol situation has changed... so the obvious question is "will it happen again?" and we can never truly be sure. All we can say is "it has not happened again yet". Yeah, he can coach... but at what cost? We all make mistakes, we all do things that we regret, etc... but there are levels of transgressions, and for me, this is still a big deal. For me, it's a matter of personal judgment - if he has a problem with alcohol (and he has to recognize whether or not he does), then I believe that he's one "bender" away from another event. Whether to hire him to coach at your school or not is a decision for the administration to make... but I personally do have a problem with hiring him because we don't know if/when it happens again... and it's not a risk that I am willing to take. With that, I'm done with the Beard discussion. Dolson will decide. Then I will decide where my fandom will lay.

not even if it was your mom, wife or daughter?

Well, after a stellar FIVE year NBA career with 14 career starts where he averaged 18.5 minutes and 5.2 points per game, who could possibly discount his opinion?

No, that was one job Woodson was finally able to do... we all wanted him out.

If it's Beard, I am out... goin' local...

"Others trying to jockey into position for the IU job. This search isn’t going to end like the others (disappointment). This is a wanted job. NIL is king and Indiana is one of the true superpowers in the NIL era and that’ll always be the case. The university takes a backseat to no one in sheer resources. Anyway, this is a two, maybe three horse race as of right now. Stevens/Otz/Drew. That’s all for now, I’m out." Woodson is gonna be pissed when he finds out... all this time, he thought he was king.

explains the heart attacks...

posted that several dozen pages back...

and progressively worse at each new school... Thank, but no thanks, Tom.

double exclamation point... would CWat be in the loop? #doubtful

I hear you... but the buyout dropped from something over $18M to $4M ($2M if the AD leaves). Serious question: Can you tell me why that would happen?

Indiana University basketball... getting coaches paid... it's what we do.

Bill Frieder didn't coach Michigan in the tournament. Steve Fisher stepped in and got the natty.

so, we're getting either an NBA guy or a loser? :D

Goodbye Columbus 75 Breaking Away 69

First of all, I'd be really surprised if it's Beard... it turns out to be so, the media will be talking about his past and his ongoing alcohol abuse non-stop... so regardless of how informed the fanbase is, the news, the story, the information will be plastered everywhere... It's one thing when the coach of Texas has strong DV allegations and even loses his job over it... but it's quite another when it's the coach at your school.

woof woof!