Hoosierfan2017

Will be sad to see Anthony Leal go

Lmao ok. Was asking an honest question about your opinion, but if you want to be a **** about it, you do you.

So, I really don’t understand this opinion that I see people have, assuming you want Woodson fired, especially at this point in the season where tournament aspirations are gone. Losing is the only way that Mike Woodson can lose his job. Every win increases the likelihood he’s back next year because the BOT and donors already want to keep him.

And if you look at what the author said, the author never actually said that they turned the job down. The author said they “expressed no interest in the job.” That’s a true statement based on their public comments at the time. But saying they “turned the job down” as that poster is saying is their own interpretation.

The fact they did it in the past and then fired him two years later for reasons unrelated to on-court performance just makes it all the more unlikely that they offered the job to Rick Pitino. He had to go to Greece and then little Iona because no one would hire him. Yet IU offered him? C’mon. There is zero chance. None.

13 years before 2021, and then they fired him and completely nuked the program. So no, they didn’t put up with Sampson, though they should have

They expressed “no interest” in the job because they were asked about it by reporters. You’re acting like they called a press conference to announce their lack of interest in the job. Pitino was asked about it in a press conference before his team’s NCAA tournament game, and he answered the question. In the same answer he said that Iona was his last coaching stop, and then he left two years later. Do you really think a school with IU’s holier than thou attitude would have offered the job to one of the sleaziest coaches in college basketball?

Two years later he leaves for St. John’s lol. Idk what’s worse, believing that IU offered Pitino the job, or believing that Pitino would’ve said no if IU offered it to him.

Did you even read the article? Because nowhere in it does it claim what you claim that it says, i.e., that “Steven’s, Rick Pitino and Nate Oates all turned down the job.” The Pitino stuff is especially laughable. It’s all based on Pitino’s comments from this tweet. https://twitter.com/mikerodak/status/1371902704361091076?s=61&t=rO3XWU_xhZIobOsxbDJjYQ You can’t “turn down” a job offer you never received, and there is a 0.0% chance that iu would offer Pitino the job.

There is absolutely zero chance that IU offered the job to Rick Pitino in 2021.

Say IU has a ‘deal’ with Pearl to hire his son. They go through the interview process and hire Bruce’s son after Bruce retires. Which coaching candidate is going to ruin his coaching career by suing IU for not getting the job? I missed all those lawsuits when Texas Tech hired Pat Knight.

No it wouldn’t lmao. This is utterly ridiculous. You’re inventing things to justify bringing Woodson back for another season.

Lmao no, no it would not.

They both need to go asap

Who would’ve expected the former IU basketball player to be the trustee screwing the program.

I actually don’t have a huge problem with coaches calling out their players, depending on the circumstances. Sometimes it lights a fire underneath them. Rick Pitino did it and his team responded by dominating Creighton. Of course, he’s one of the best coaches in college basketball history, so it’s a little different from a Mike Woodson doing it.

The sweet 16 losses weren’t the problem for Crean, it was the down years. He went to 3 sweet 16s in 6 years. In the other three years, he won 0 tournament games, missed it altogether twice, and finished T-8th, T-7th, and T-10th in the Big Ten. He’d still probably be our head coach if he wasn’t so inconsistent.

I agree with you 1000% about Nate Oats. I don’t think he’s a realistic candidate so I don’t mention him, but he’s easily #1 on my wish list. Would absolutely love to get him. Pearl is just, imo, the most realistic of the home run hires given his time at USI and his past comments about IU. Not saying that he is realistic, but if any of the big names would come, I think it’d be him.

Pearl’s age is the only concern I have with him, but I don’t have too big of a concern about it. Our last five coaches have coached for: Davis - 6 years Sampson - 2 years Crean - 9 years Miller - 4 years Woodson - 3 years Average of 4.8 years. If you take Sampson out since he was fired for reasons unrelated to on-court performance, it’s 5.5 years. Pearl could definitely give us at least that long. Ideally you want to find a long-term option, but I think the likelihood of doing that is higher after a successful Pearl stint than it would be after this year when the program is in disarray.

Winners win. The best predictor of future success is past results. Bruce Pearl is a winner. He’s coached 29 seasons. Won 72% of his games during that span. He’s coached at four schools and won all at four of them, leveling up in difficulty as he’s advanced. D2 national championship at USI, and at least 1 sweet 16 appearance at each of his other three schools. Nothing in life is guaranteed. But Bruce Pearl succeeding at IU is as close to a guarantee as you can get when picking a coach. If he can’t win at IU when he’s won everywhere else, we’d really need to question if anyone can.

He also had a winning conference record in each of his first 18 seasons before going 8-8 in his last year at Tennessee. In 29 years as a head coach, he’s only had 4 losing conference records. 3 of those were his first three years at Auburn. Advancing in the tournament is important obviously, but it’s just one part of being a successful program.

What? You’re the one who brought up “first five years” when you said “Nothing beyond the Sweet 16 until year 5 at his P5 stops is “killing it?” after I demonstrated that he won immediately at USI, Milwaukee, and Tennessee. The only school he didn’t win immediately at was auburn, and they’re a terrible basketball school historically. 8 appearances in school history before Pearl came. This is what he did at his first 3 stops in his first two seasons (is that immediate enough for you?) USI: Year 1: 22-7, 14-4, D2 regional third place Year 2: 28-4, 16-2, D2 runner up Milwaukee: Year 1: 16-13, 11-5 Year 2: 24-8, 13-3, first tournament appearance in school history Tennessee: Year 1: 22-8, 12-4, round of 32 Year 2: 24-11, 10-6, sweet 16 In his third season at these schools, he (a) won a D2 national championship; (b) won his school’s first Horizon League regular season title; and (c) went 31-5, won the SEC, and made the sweet 16. IU hasn’t won 31 games in a season since 1993. If folks want to take a risk on a mid-major guy at a time when the program is on life support, that’s their prerogative. I’m going with Bruce Pearl every day of the week. 7-8 years of Bruce Pearl at IU with NIL and the transfer portal would have IU exactly where the fanbase wants it to be.

Now you’re moving the goal posts because your initial take was dead wrong. Compared to what IU has done? Hell yeah it’s killing it. We’ve gone to 4 sweet 16s in the past 30 years. And there’s still zero comparison to Dusty May. He’s gone to 1 tournament in his life. You really going to sit there and say IU fans wouldn’t consider a coach to be killing it if he came to IU and went: 22-8; 12-4 (round of 32) 24-11; 10-6 (sweet 16) 31-5; 14-2 (sweet 16) 21-13; 10-6 (round of 64) 28-9; 11-5 (elite 8) in his first 5 seasons? Let’s be for real here.

The chances are near zero, but that’s still much higher than the chances of Mike Woodson being the answer.

I mean, that just isn’t true at all, lol. He started out at USI. D2 runner up in year 2. D2 champions in year 3. For all the talk about how Dusty “built a program out of nothing, Milwaukee had zero tournament appearances in school history before Pearl took over. Goes 11-5 in the conference his first year ( better than any of Dusty’s first four seasons ). Makes the tournament his second season. Wins his conference in years 3 and 4. Goes to the sweet 16 in year 4. Follows that up by killing it immediately at Tennessee. 12-4 in the SEC in year 1. Sweet 16 in year 2. 31 wins in year 3 and another sweet 16. 3 sweet 16s in his first 5 years, an elite 8 and 6 straight tournament appearances. There is absolutely zero comparison between Peal and May. Pearl has won and won big everywhere he’s been for 25+ years.