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Very good point - I hadn’t really noticed. Was thinking there was less hero ball this half

Finally some fire...with 8 minutes to go

That replay there at the end is telling. De’Ron does not want to be there. Always liked him and I feel for him with the injuries but some of these guys aren’t in it fully

I’ve watched them all, sadly. Just wish Archie would use the bench as a teaching tool. If you’re not going to make the tourney might as well teach and get better.

Why not just play the freshman and sophomores at this point. Season is clearly not going anywhere, could it be worse than what you get from Green, Smith and co.? Or is that a bit of self preservation from Archie?

I’m holding out hope we come back, but at this point I’m just delaying me watching AEW. I can’t believe some of this, at home losing to an 8 player NW

Phinisee is a shell of what he was last year. It just can’t all be his conditioning either, so odd

Durham just drives with no purpose. That’s two times in a row now

I at least have more faith in Archie’s half time adjustments than I ever did Crean. Need to figure out something - this NW team is not good. We very well may not be either but we need to win this one

Archie players, Crean players, doesn’t matter just want someone to care

Oops, definitely missed it. That's my bad

I may have missed it, but is Phinisee practicing much yet? Totally agree we need him out there, but wasn't sure if he's been practicing and/or healthy enough to give us that kind of minutes yet.

At the risk of myself, is this not a valid concern? I remember during Crean's tenure him being picked apart after games for what he offered up during post game pressers from focusing on deflections, getting out in transition, you name it. I'm not sure how often LCS has repeated that particular line, but I found that to be alarming most definitely after the Maryland contest. Note: I say this as a big fan of the Archie hire and don't really want to see him fired, I just want him to figure things out whether that be with better players, better system, etc. I just want him and the team to win. Hopefully I don't get the ban-hammer for this post but I found that presser to be a bit alarming as it seemed he was focused on the wrong things, but I imagine it's gotta be tough answering questions after a performance like that.

Hope we win on Wednesday as this board is becoming like Britney Spears circa 2003: Toxic

Totally agree. I was so excited when they hired him. Was my second choice behind Donovan and as been discussed here that was a pipe dream but those reports of him in Bloomington I thought it was realistic. I just don’t see this being fixed next year and I don’t see how he makes it beyond that at the rate we are going. Just so disheartening

Just watched his post-game presser and he said a few 50/50 balls both ways really changed the game. He lost me there, we lost by near 30 before their walk-ons came in to finish? Can someone help me out here, did I watch the same game? He may just be searching for answers on some of these tough questions after games like that but that just blows my mind.

Smith and Durham have never been coached by Crean. Archie re-recruited those guys and as bad as it is we’d be far worse off without them. It’s not isolated to you but at what point do we stop pointing the finger at Crean and await for Miller to start taking responsibility for this mess. This is bad no way you slice it and awaiting 2 more years for those guys you mentioned to graduate I’m not confident it will get any better, in fact I think it could get far worse as recruiting will slide if it already hasn’t.

Aren’t there only 2 Crean players left at this point or are we still including Smith and Durham? Waiting for a team full of Jr’s and Sr’s doesn’t sound very appealing either.

I was being sarcastic as that’s been the narrative after some of these previous debacles. Mainly from OF who has been very quiet recently

11-3 though guys. Building something here

We got to 50! With 2 minutes left even!

My mentality for the football program was just to be competitive. That has now transferred over to the basketball team. So embarrassing, is this even rock bottom?

I think he had to due to the hook and hold. More of an intentional foul situation than technical

Don’t forget about 11-3

It was a 3 point margin not too long ago. Now 15. We are awful