MikeRoberts

Not sure I like that starting 5

No. He road the coattails of of the previous coach and even with one of the top 5 players in the country that he inherited he got bounced in the first round of the tournament. Now that he has a team of his own guys he may not make the NIT

I’m still not sure what you are even saying? “They committed early because they wanted to go to Purdue” yeah, that is usually why kids commit to a program… Of course they wanted to go there, I’ve never seen a kid choose a school they didn’t want to go to. The point that you are ignoring is that they weren’t predisposed to go there. It wasn’t their birthright. Mike Davis and a million other factors were a part of it including Purdue’s ability to identify under recruited players and prioritize them. these kids weren’t Oden and Conley recruits, but even they were ignored/screwed up by IU. These 3 Purdue kids that changed their program were not blue chip kids but ones that were prioritized by PU above any other school. Name me one school/IU that recruited those 3 kids harder than Purdue. You can’t. That’s the point. IU screed the pooch on them, Oden, Conley and a gazillion other kids due to incompetence

I’m not sure what you are arguing. No team owns an area or kid. Every recruitment is a different situation and each kid has different wants and goals. There was no destiny with these kids, they were just recruited really hard and well by PU and they were hooked. IU could have done that but they didn’t. They were in a state of instability and incompetence from a coaching perspective. Sean May grew up in Bloomington and always planned on going to IU until coaching Instability and incompetence became an issue. That incompetence and instability has been a part of who we are ever since.

I think you are missing the point. They were all in on PU because IU wasn’t the same IU at that point and we didn’t focus on them like we should have. That was a big turning point that had been brewing for years

I like the idea of Schwartz at IU but not worried by DePaul. If he goes there, it’s not going to be hard to pry him from there.

True, but what are you supposed to do with that mail? Why does it still arrive at my house after the previous owners changed their mailing address when they moved 2.5 years ago? it’s never stopped coming and we used to email them and they would swing by once a month but this is too much

Pot calling the kettle black. Aren’t you the one that repeatedly said you can’t believe the police when it came to MM? what’s different?

Ok, I wasn’t looking for assumptions. I have heard from some folks that work at IU that Woody had no interest nor plans on a second contract and that his plan was to revitalize the program quickly and hand it off in a good place. So, I have heard that and who is to say there isn’t a coach in waiting already on staff or that they don’t have a plan to bring one in. It’s year 3 of a 6 year contract so there is time. While some have thrown Fife under the bus, I don’t think he was that far off in the things he was saying

If you are to believe a lot of folks that were close to things, yes. Not a popular comment but likely true

This goes back to my question, where are you getting that he wasn’t brought in as a 3 or 4 year thing? I have heard otherwise but all hearsay - I imagine this is too?

Honest question: do we know what Woody was hired to do? Obviously it is to win and restore us to prominence but is the plan for him to be here a long time to do that and keep it there or to get us close and hand it off to someone else while it is in a good place unlike several before him? maybe it is incorrect but my belief was that he was going to hand it off before we ever saw a bad season or stretch of seasons which means walking away while the cupboard is full. It’s hard to make the cupboard full and equally as hard to walk away while it is but coach K did it and so have others. That’s what you do when you love the university and can put it ahead of yourself. anyway, just curious if there was a plan/expectation for Woodson to be here longterm or not.

9 assists for Galloway and Reneau was a bucket. Glad to finally see them put away a crappy team and leave little doubt

I agree. I don’t think most fans are truly looking for IU to cut ties with Woody right away. What I believe to be true is that fans are concerned that we are headed back in the wrong direction and that if he is not able to right the ship, this whole bridge process will have been for not and we will be handing off the program to the next coach in the same fashion it was left for Archie and then for Woody. we need to hand it off when we are winning/making the tourney every year and many fans are concerned we will not this year and that next year could be even worse

My new IU jacket from Homefield apparel doesn’t give/stretch and I’m worried I am going to Chris Farley it

I already answered this. The description above is what we need to be a good team. We aren’t even close to being a good team, therefore even having a serviceable guard that can do any of those things well is a plus to having nobody. here: https://247sports.com/season/2023-basketball/TransferPortalTop/ I would take any of about 20 guards that were in the portal but if you need a name, max abmas but I have kids so I know how this will go, I’m sure you can find something about him that isn’t perfect

You are impossible. There were guards in the portal that could have helped us, period. Other teams got them, we didn’t and you will argue anything otherwise

Of course we need shooters. We need shooters at every position. we need guards that can lead a team, that can create off the dribble, get others involved and create for themselves and stay in front of their man on D. we are very far from having a rotation that can do that.

So the entitles middle class white women would complain about serviceable players? still not understanding how this politically charged tag is relevant here but hey. anywho, we could use another serviceable guard, especially if they had 1 trait that we could count on like being a lockdown defender or great shooter.

Karen? IF Woodson knew we needed a guard and had a year to find one and couldn’t find one that would play for him that could be serviceable, that is a huge problem

Assembling a roster is probably the most important part of the coaching staffs R&R. when Golf says who should they have gotten - the answer is, there were hundreds of guards in the portal, which one we got was up to the staff and we got zero. That was the worst case scenario Call that a dead horse but that horse is going to be rotting all season, it’s not like folks are bringing up the same play or substitution that is done and over with im not calling for Woodsons job at all, but there are some signs he isn’t going to get it done. These signs were there with Crean and Archie too, some fans and the administration just refused to see them until we were a consistent stinker. Woodson is going to need to turn this season around and get us in the tournament AND use that momentum to land us a dream class in the portal.

Just like the Auburn game where we were stuck on like 26 for what seemed like a century, we got stuck on 56. We were up like 56-46 and they beat us to 60. unreal how we just get stuck and have no solve

Dickinson will get some buckets but he isn’t our concern. It’s speed and movement that kills this team. Can’t stay with our man

Yes, it’s pretty civil. Many just pointing out our guard/wing strength isn’t there. it was pretty obvious to many before the season started and was exasperated by X’s injury. We have role players at the 1-3 and no studs nor depth

Leal is better than Bates? Come on. I like Leal but let’s be real