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Now that foul was pretty petty and bad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

All but one of them..maybe…have been fouls. Love the defensive pressure but not sure we are gifted enough athletically to keep most people in front of us. Seems to be an issue early in the season Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I thought they took the delay of game penalty to give the kicker a yardage he was more comfortable with to try and pin them as deep as possible. But admittedly I’m a die hard basketball guy and not a huge football guy so I could be wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nope! Trent was always going to see the process through even if he was dead set on IU. His family would have made him because that’s the smart thing to do. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Logged 28 minutes again tonight. I’m thinking he might be a big time piece to this team Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No we wouldn’t because he wouldn’t get off the bench at either of those places. He’s not a great shooter and that has nothing to do with Woodson. His FT percentage tells another story. Just watching the dude go in for layups terrified to shoot makes me cringe. Let alone watching him handle ball pressure by backing them down from 90 feet away. I get it he bleeds red, he plays hard at all time, and is a smart player. No one is doubting that. But he is super limited. I’d gladly welcome him back if he was the 11-13th man. He certainly won’t hurt IU at the end of the bench but if he’s logging big minutes we are in trouble just like last year. I stand by if he hits the portal he isn’t going to be sought after. Maybe a P4 picks him up but it’s nothing more than an end of the bench depth piece in case of emergency. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wanting Dallas James over him is crazy but Leal is not an “elite” defender. Leal plays his a** off and is smart but very limited. Serious question for the die hard leal truthers….if he were to hit the portal today what type of school or schools do you think would be interested and would he see the floor? I personally believe it would be like a butler type level and I don’t think his numbers would be much better than they were here. If leal wasn’t a hometown kid and Indiana me basketball he wouldn’t even be considered. Post his stats and what he’s done over the years, don’t put a face or name to them, and let’s act like he just committed to IU. This place would be ready to fire devries tomorrow or question why and how he helps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The first sentence answered it. Yes I hope with what we have now leal doesn’t play and is just a bench guy. Archie showed it, Crean showed it, doesn’t mean devries won’t work out just means some are hesitant. I’m not down or up on him just cautiously waiting and optimistic. The portal only brings a hand full of studs per year. What’s the chances IU got all of them? I’d say slim to none. Just because other P4 wanted them doesn’t mean they work out. Most other P4 teams needed to fill holes. We needed to fill a whole roster. They wouldn’t have been leaning on them like we are going to have to. If they miss on them it might make their team weaker but wasn’t going to cripple them. If we miss on them, since we needed so many, our year is shot. Also they didn’t necessarily need them to be the players we need them to be….for example. Wilkerson with UK probably wouldn’t need to be a stud. He was probably 4th or 5th best. IU needs him to be a dude! Does he have that in him? We all hope. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I didn’t get to watch a ton of games while he was at Montverde, mainly highlights but I did catch a few, so hard for me to give much insight but I’ll try…. The thing that sticks out most to his improvement is just how much more explosive and physical he played this year. He is so much stronger and quicker than he was at heritage hills. Some of the games and highlights he was going through ppl. The other thing that impressed me was just his body language. Trent is to let things affect his attitude alot when he was younger. Teams around here could frustrate him bang foul him and he would lose his head a little. I didn’t see much of that watching him at Montverde. Maybe that’s because in high school they put 4 guys on him and beat the crap out of him and while at Montverde it wasn’t like that. Who knows…..I still believe defensively is where he is going to need to improve the most. He really didn’t “have” to start playing it until this year against better guys. In junior high and high school he could be lazy or not guard because he was longer, bigger, just better than everyone….The one thing about Trent is he works his @$$ off. The thing he liked most about Montverde is he could workout 2-4 times per day on his game. The kid loves the game and has never been afraid to work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I mean that’s the hope for the year. None of us really know until the season starts I guess. Truth is we seem to have a nice collection of mid major players but are they ready to take the jump and contribute in the big leagues? Can the coach get the most out of them so even if we are less talented we can beat more talented teams? All questions that won’t be answered until the ball tips. Idk what to think honestly. We’ve been burned so many times in just kind of sitting back patiently waiting without any expectations and hoping for the best. I’m ready for IU to be back, to have a good team, to have a great coach but we’ve been through the same thing many times over the last 20 years. Coaches who we thought were locks to be the next great thing, a new year with upgraded talent that were duds, and off season expectations that seemed great on paper but were never met. Hopefully for all of us this is the year all those things come to fruition. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That’s basically what I was getting at. I’m fine with leal if it doesn’t come at loss to our roster. For me a loss would be bringing on leal and not getting C if available. He’s obviously better and more valuable than a walk on I just hope he isn’t logging huge minutes for us or I’m afraid it will be another rough year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes I coached and worked with Trent through the grades. I think until he became a freshman then I got out of teaching and coaching for a better paying job Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Who’s upset? It’s a discussion not an argument. Leal does nothing to move the needle for me. He isn’t a high D1 player he’s shown that for 5 years now. I dot really care what analytics show defensively my eyes saw he was awful and couldn’t keep even decent athletes in front of him. Leadership? Who knows we aren’t there day to day but I do know it takes someone special to get ppl to follow when you’re not even close to the best. If we add him I don’t think the sky is falling I would rather just add Goode and a center. If leal is back and we are any good I don’t expect leal to play very much so if we can’t add a center then it doesn’t really matter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Who me? I coached at heritage hills for a while not Monteverde. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m not sure honestly. He has grown tremendously in the last year from an athletic, quickness, and physical standpoint. He has a very nice skill set for a stretch 4 type of guy, especially one that will not be the vocal point of a scouting report. He will do a lot of the little things and does move without the ball well making reads, back cuts, and what not. I have my worries defensively and I didn’t get to watch many games at Montverde so that’s more from my perspective at heritage hills. Wasn’t that he was a bad defender but he didn’t “HAVE” to play it at heritage hills because he was just better than everyone else. So I figured he would grow a lot in that area once he got to college. So he can certainly grown into,or maybe already has, a plus defender. I’m also not trying to be a homer because it’s hard to stay biased about a kid I’ve taught, coached, and have known personally for awhile now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk