monskisprodigy

Mack fell pretty hard at Louisville, pretty fast. 16 mths. after a 24-7 season and number 1 ranking he was canned. Still wild how fast that crumbled.

Just when I think I am over Brad, you guys pull me right back innnnn!

What was the take?

I think I am finally to the point where we have to let the program fully die, for it to be reborn. The sad reality is that Indiana basketball doesn't mean much, if anything, any more in the college basketball landscape. Kids don't care about our dated championships, dusty banners, candy stripe pants, Bob Knight, and on and on...because none of it has ever truly meant anything in their lifetime. We are holding onto ghosts, and it's time we realize it's dead. Since 2000, we have made it beyond the 1st weekend of the NCAA tournament 4 times...per the article I just read, you can actually go back to 1995 and that number is still just..4 times. Since 1995 we have won 3 conference titles. In that same period (1995) we have gone through 6 coaches, trying to do the same things, touting the same tradition, with mostly the same results. Rinse, repeat. It all has to die...and a new voice, with new traditions, new facilities, new identity, new expectations, new everything has to be reborn. We have to step into the current times and modernize the program. Give the new coach total control to change whatever they want, to try to rise this program from the ashes.

I guess there’s no reason to fire him tonight, with two road games up next…but if you lose both of those, no way you let him walk back into assembly hall to coach against Maryland. My hope would be he steps down or we let him go before that. Would be a sad sad day to see an all-time great have to face the environment that would be waiting for him.

If Dolson had any thoughts about pulling the plug before the season ends…here is his chance. But it wont happen.

I didn’t think we’d win. But I didn’t expect this…that was likely the worst half at home I’ve ever seen from us, all around.

I always try to look at things objectively...and the numbers are - 14-30 vs Quad 1 teams 17-10 vs Quad 2 teams 45-4 vs Quad 3/4 teams 76-44 overall What most fans can't shake, is of those 44 overall losses, over half (26) have been by double digits, and 10 of those are by 20+ points.

So what I can gather from Tyme and SDB is...it's the fans fault for having too high of expectations for the program. It's not all on the coach, and there are problems with the program that the coach can't fix...even a coach that was given $6 million to build a roster, that those same burners were bragging about in the off season...now that it's not working, those deep rooted problems are again the issue. To fix it, you have to burn it down to the ground, and then have zero expectations for the new coach or team in order for that coach to be able to be successful? Fan expectations are killing our coaches and keeping top talent from wanting to play here. Am I getting that right?

I saw the blow by, but he immediately was going after the ref. Wonder if that comment was directed toward the ref, not Woody.

Muss Buss blew through the first couple handshakes to Rice and then Woody...to storm at the ref. Clown.

Carlyle...kid has lot his mojo and confidence...forcing jumpers, rushing bunnies and missing.

Tucker is lost on defense. Out of position, late to recover, gives up rebounds. He's young and will learn. But he gave back his 4 points and then some on the defensive end. Goode also sat for too long. Kid is on a hot streak, and needs to be on the floor as much as possible. Also thought Carlyle had a decent half. Finally knocked down a three, was playing hard on defense, but picked up a couple ticky tack fouls.

Whatever hump we crossed between Bloomington and Philly, glad to see it.

Good win. Thought we might cough it up, but guys showed some grit and finished.

That's wild...leading Indiana to the CFP with a torn ACL. GOAT Status. I guess I will quit telling my wife about my stubbed toe from this morning...I walked all the way to my office chair across the house, thought it was truly a brave act...

Carlyle continues to be a head scratcher…

Hope I didn’t speak too soon here…haha

They are playing hard tonight, and knocking down shots. Even without Harper, this has been a much better showing for the boys

Street clothes Georgia player likely just cost them a TD with that sideline interference....yikes.

Can't wait to watch the SEC Talking Heads spin this...

Lyonel Anderson was his name. I vaguely remember hearing crazy stories about him all the time...if my memory serves me right, one story was that while at IU he delivered his baby in the car in the parking lot of the hospital or somewhere near it.

We probably crossed paths that night...upstairs bar by the dance floor. Our favorite bartender worked up there solely...was over served far too many times to count. The good ole' days. But...I agree, IU Players have been going out to the bars, during the season, for a long, long time...even the nights before games. I am confident that kids partying is not just an IU problem. The difference between us and other successful programs is that there is a large contingent of IU fans very unhappy with the program, Woodson and the players, and thus...pictures like this surface knowing it will reflect bad on a coach they want fired and a program they are unhappy with. The accessibility of the internet and ability to share information at ease is a part of this, but IMO, other big time programs seemingly not dealing with / having these issues brought to light is not a product of players not partying or going out, but more to do with a fanbase at those programs unwilling to compromise the success of their team and looking the other way. People may not agree with players doing certain things, but you have to be in a pretty bad spot as a program IMO for fans to intentionally do things that will be detrimental to the players and team they follow / support.

No other college in the country would have paid Mike Woodson $4.5 million to coach their program. The “market”, is his Alma Mater where his best buddy and a couple deep pockets were able to get him the job. Plain and simple. Mike Woodson just isn’t a good college coach, and the market will soon show that if he’s let go and doesn’t retire.

Not doubting you or this…because I have seen it posted on here several times, and it was even mentioned on the hysterics podcast (Not a big hysterics guys…but I listened for the drama) episode with Brian Evans where they said it was a fact that he didn’t report to Dolson. Is this actually true? And if so, who does he report to?