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Yeah I’m not saying he is going to set the world on fire. But Brian snow said on peegs that he was told race would probably play tonight to spell juwan. So just a bummer that him being sick precludes that from happening Just when he has the chance to play, something happens like this. Unfortunate. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Nobody is telling you have to wait til year 4. If you want to criticize now, criticize. Not everyone is going to agree with your stance and that’s fine. If you don’t think Archie is the coach for this program, fine. But you realize nothing is going to happen after 1.5 years of him on the job, right? So I’m not sure what you want. Nobody has said Archie is perfect or immune from criticism. But a lot of people are going to push back to some outlandish takes, like scrapping our entire offense and defense or putting in a walk-on because he hit a three one time. Just a little funny that you are complaining about the direction of the program in literally every thread, but somehow still making it seem like you’re not allowed to do so... Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Same. Although every time I count out butler they come up with some dramatic win that keeps the ‘Butler way’ alive and well. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Who you got? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Was rumored that Race would make his debut tonight. However, according his Instagram story it doesn’t even look like he traveled with the team. If that’s the case, this team is seriously cursed Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I’m convinced they’re the same person. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Whatever makes you feel better man. Keep doing you Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Yeah I agree that we do not really play worse without him. Its just a simple fact that we are at a point where we need his body right now to give the other two a rest. I definitely want to see the bulk of the minutes go to Al and Rob, with him getting like 12 minutes a game.

Are you trying to say that we have a Tom Coverdale on our bench? Last I checked we do not have an Indiana Mr. Basketball riding our bench..

Beard won in year 1? 18-14 (6-12) is winning? Why are you all over Archie then if that is the case?

Enlighten me, what do you mean by anything? Because Archie will probably switch some things up to get better results, but I guarantee you it will still be within his system. Wholesale changes will not occur. He is building a program and culture for the future. He is not going to rely on some flavor of the week gimmick to get a W.

IU - 65 Rutgers - 60

yes, no kidding. But playing another walk--on? give me a break.

yeah maybe we should try something where our defense switches from the pack-line to zone with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock. OR maybe we could like come up with some signs the coaches hold from the bench to remind our players not to miss free throws or to hit wide open jump shots. I mean seriously, lets get crazy with it.

Agreed. The staff didn’t offer Armaan until early summer before his senior year either. However, the amount of attention he gets from other big schools like MSU and Virginia might force the staff’s hand to offer earlier if they are really serious about him. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Well, high school rankings are pretty good indicators of talent and impact. Yes with any rule their are exceptions, but for the most part the recruiting services get it right. However, I only used the recruiting rankings because he did. He stated we had 4 and 5 stars in our starting lineup. Which is true. But if someone wants to use the recruit rankings to show we have a lot of talent, I am going to use that same logic to show that according to those services, we are nowhere near the top of the league in terms of talent/experience. So, it is actually the best way to prove the point I was making.

You’re assuming we are passing the ball around because we don’t have a good look. Mcroberts and smith pass up so many wide open looks because they are afraid to shoot, and just can’t shoot. That’s not on the offensive scheme, that’s on personnel. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Edit: just saw I read your post wrong. But even then I disagree. Because Mcroberts and smith pass up so many shots that force us into tough shots in the paint.

Agreed. I’m not saying Archie is blameless as the roster construction has me a bit worried. Not enough guards or shooters. But for this years roster, it is what it is. A middle of the pack big ten roster. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

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Literally every offense has those problems. Ours is exacerbated because we can’t shoot. You can’t space the defense out if you are no threat to hit a shot outside 10 feet. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

It isn’t working because we are a combined 10-55 from three in our last three games. I wish I could go back and count how many of them are wide open shots, I’m betting at least 30. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Look the Nebraska loss hurt. No denying that. But if you’re going off rankings, Nebraska is a more talented team than IU. It’s painful to say it. Glenn Watson - 75. Isaac Copeland - 24 (5 star) James Palmer Jr. - 105 Isaiah Roby - 133 Thomas Allen - 103. Glynn Watson is a senior. James Palmer and Isaac Copeland are 5th year seniors. Isaiah Roby is a junior. Thomas Allen is a sophomore. They have more talent and experience than IU. Tough pill to swallow, but it’s the truth. Nobody is making that up to defend Archie. And do you want me to keep going? I can do this with Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, Iowa and any other top big ten team you want. It’s not pretty, but it’s the truth. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Yes rob Phinesse is a FRESHMAN that was ranked 125ish. He is starting at point guard on a big ten team. Look at the other top big ten teams and tell me who he should start over at THIS point in his career. Cassius Winston? Ranked: 31 (junior) Carson Edwards? 118 (junior) Glenn Watson? 75 (senior) Zavier Simpson - 67 (junior) Anthony Cowan Jr.? 62 (junior) The top teams in this league have an experienced, and talented point guard. We do not. I love rob, but he is not there YET. IU starts Zach Mcroberts. A walk-on. Not only is he a walk-on, he has 15 total point this year and won’t shoot the ball. What other top big ten team would he play major minutes for? Justin Smith. A sophomore who is still developing. Ranked around 100. Maybe he should be more productive than he is, but I don’t think that’s on Archie. Once you watch him play, you can’t tell me he is a starting caliber big ten player (for a top team) at this point in his career. IU’s first guy off the bench is Al Durham. A sophomore Ranked around 230. If you want to go off pure rankings, he is not a guy you should rely heavily on in his sophomore year if you want to be top 3-4 in the Big ten. Yes IU starts Romeo, another freshman. And Juwan a senior. This team has 12 wins because they have carried them despite the glaring holes in the rest of the roster. Two players don’t get it done in this league without quality experience around them. Take 2016-2017 Michigan State for example. Started THREE five stars Cassius Winston, Miles bridges, and Joshua Langford. A high four star in nick ward. That team went 18-13 and barely made the tournament in a weak big ten. TALENTED EXPERIENCE MATTERS. IU doesn’t have nearly enough of it. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

HOOSIERS 72 Maryland 67

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