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Hmm. Sure would be nice if we had someone like this.

First time seeing the “elbow”. What a joke of a call. Cant believe they ejected him. I know we lost and Woody is on the hot seat but that was at Wisconsin without Ware and with a completely ridiculous call against Gunn. That call is definitely Rant worthy and hopefully Btown ranted in the game thread.

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He is also an example of a program being patient. This is his 11th year there. Woodys age works against him on the patience approach however.

If he starts hitting on some recruits it might give hope to the idea of righting the ship. Really need a big time guard or 2 to commit. He has done well in the portal but by the time the portal window opens there may be too many people questioning the program to expect his portal success to continue.

If he were here the Illinois and Iowa games could be intense. His discretions after this could also be chalked up to seeing up close what other schools did and got away with and just decided that was the way to win. Look at the top 25 ranked teams and most of the big name coaches or schools have had some their own issues or at least insinuations of cheating.

I agree. I have moved my family a few times but would allow my kids to stay put if in HS. That limited some opportunities, but it was better than moving a kid that age who is in a good spot (academically, socially, activity/sport wise).

I mean if you say good brisket you got my attention but I am not recruiting 18 year old kids.

Not many good candidates will have ties to IU

Regarding Scott Drew, I still think he is possible. I have been to Waco several times and despite those 2 home makeover people, some good brisket there is not much there. Long drive to Dallas as well. The Drew's have deep ties to the state (Indiana), I think he could recruit at least as well here as there if not better.

The tiredness comes not just from the day we fire a coach but also from the 2 - 3 years of turbulence before we fire that coach. Over the last 20 + years it seems we have been more in doubt that we are going in the right direction vs being convinced we are.

Just about everyone is a risk for points 1 - 11 at the P5 level except guys that have some issues with #12. If you assume any of the AI guys above as realistic then maybe those guys could get you all 12 but I think we have to take a guy who had 1 - 11 at a lower level or take a guy who has had 1 - 11 at a P5 school but also has some issues with #12 (Drew to a lesser extent, Pearl and Beard come to mind)

If he left MSU in good standing, Izzo would be able to give a good recommendation. Hopefully he can get back at it if that is what he wants

Possibly. I could also have been borderline and he just needed to be able to spend some time in a similiar role to show he was able to get around reasonably. After showing he could do some of that Butler may have been willing to bet on him and his health.

If he considers the prior hires he may consider himself better than the likely replacements. Crean may have had 2 sweet 16s but he also had some really down years. Archie was meh, Sampson was not the right culture guy so he may look at those 3 and say, well if they likely hire from that same tree it is better if I stay around.

Well, Thad may have been brought in for more than just to help Woody. I think it was Goodman who said That would have had the job had he not failed a physical. No hard facts on that one but I know someone very close to Woody (sits behind the bench for all home games and some road games). It seemed like things were moving for Woody after Brad then this Thad thing pops up so I texted my friend to ask if he knew anything. It was clear from his response that Woody was not happy about "this" and it seemed that the "this" was that Thad was being considered for the HC position. Not sure if this helps, hurts anything but if they went after Brad, then Thad it seemed he was swinging for guys we would have liked first.

I am not sure RMKs approach would translate to today to the extent that it did when he was here. However, we have strayed from the idea of having a coach that is somewhat controversial. RMK was controversial and then we hooked up with Sampson and when he quickly went rogue, we quicky regretted it. It seems now we have decided to stay firmly in the squeaky-clean camp. That i think is what has kept us free of NCAA sanctions but also NCAA success. Beard, Pearl, Drew are a few guys that have the background to show they would have consistent success here. Izzo and Self have their share of controversy. Roy Williams and even Coach K had some question their recruiting purity. As long as we are insistent on staying in the squeaky clean camp we are hoping to get lucky with an up and comer. If this season turn sour I would prefer to move on to Beard, Pearl or Drew as my first options.

How do you define badly?

I fortunately had a dinner to attend and missed the game. Noticed that Gabe and X played about the same amount of time but Gabe had a better stat line. Did X not play as much because Woody was still sending a message, Gabe was just better or was X hurt?

Very cool that the lions won. Gutsy call to throw on 2nd down but it worked and looks great now. Love going for the win. Comparing Campbell to Steichen based on one play is interesting. Campbell won 3 games his first year with his QB healthy whereas Steichen won 9, mostly with a backup. Hopefully both end up as great coaches.

If Gallo were our primary PG teams should press us. If they did I really don’t think he could handle the press without Gabe or X on the court with him. Right now he does OK when teams press because teams focus on taking away our PGs so if they have to pass to Gallo he does not have as challenging an assignment as our PGs. If Gallo were the primary focus of another teams press I don’t think he could handle that.

Any idea what Adam Howard’s tweet is referencing?

I was just thinking last night that Cupps shot might be easier to fix. His energy on the shot is less and if he could concentrate on getting set better before going up it should yield to much better results.

Minn had a better record than I thought they would. Had not followed them and they are not world beaters but certainly have done better than I expected. They have some talent too. Will be a team to watch

Without knowing what he does that is too strong.