JSHoosier

This team needs a lot more than just positive vibes.

Even then his player development is mainly perimeter players IMO.

So...when does the game start?  I'm tired of watching Penn State warm up.

Did...did Baylor throw a TD pass to a 400 lb lineman?  Man, not even we would allow that one and we got a penalty called on us before the season even started.

Good to see our defense and intensity stayed in Bloomington and last week.

He has no where to go though, PSU can stack the box because they have no reason whatsoever to respect the pass.  Diamont is so bad as a QB PSU could put 9 guys in the box.

It's about to be 13.

What are they going to do though?  Sudfeld is hurt and Diamont simply isn't good.

He's athletic but he's simply not a good QB right now.  No pocket awareness, bad thrower.

Do they ever?  Our secondary has sucked all year.

There is a very noticeable drop off from Sudfeld to Diamont.  Diamont has a long ways to go passing the ball.

Because he's gotten some good players to sign.  They ignore that he's put horridly constructed teams on the floor, they ignore that he's gotten a bunch of players that either don't fit his system or have no business playing at this level; both of which fall squarely on his recruiting.   Another knock on his recruiting is the 2012 class which has been a complete bust outside of one player.

It's criticism, it's not bashing.  If I said he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag that would be bashing, saying we overrate one of his strengths isn't.

Some of the problems he's had do fall on recruiting.  When he puts teams on the floor that have a glaring weakness, when he gets players that aren't a fit for his system it absolutely falls on recruiting.  There is more to recruiting than just getting good players to sign.   And yes he could improve those things without changing his focus area, but that doesn't change my opinion that IN and the Midwest should be the top priority.  Crean said himself he was going to lock down the borders, which lasted until he saw a player on the East Coast that could jump.

Every time this debate starts there are posters that jump to the extreme that we want Crean only recruiting the Midwest.  No one, not a single poster, not even Old Friend, has said to recruit ONLY the Midwest.  What he has said, and I've said it too, is that Indiana and the Midwest should be the priority.  Saying that recruiting area should be the priority and saying we should only recruit that area are not the same thing.   BTW, Crean's nationwide recruiting approach has led to him being very mediocre over the course of his career.  If he was capable of adjusting maybe he should try a different approach, his current one hasn't worked very well.

My stance is the same it's always been, we have one of the top talent hotbeds in the country right in our backyard so it doesn't make sense to me for that to not be the top priority.  Very few programs have that same luxury.  No one construe what I'm saying; I'm not saying recruit solely IN/Midwest, but due to our proximity it should absolutely be the top priority.   UNLV has no other option but to recruit on a more national level because they won't get much from their area.  UK is in much the same boat, they have to travel a ways just to get to Indy if they relied on what was local they'd be completely and utterly screwed.

Technically that moniker isn't wrong, they never told us what kind of movement....

They relied on Stephen friggin' Drew and Brendan Ryan to man 2nd.  It doesn't get more worthless than that combo.   Yet they've had a love affair with Drew for a few years now so they'll probably re-sign him.   :angry:  :shout:  :rtfm:  :help:  :banghead:

I think losing 12-0 is more likely.  They stuck with Stephen Drew WAY too long and the awfulness rubbed off on everyone else in the lineup.  Bird was in AAA most of the season so obviously the stench of Drew didn't travel to Scranton.   For a team that has gone after crappy veterans so many times, they finally found the holy grail of crappy veterans.

Cobbs dropped a few passes he should've had, both of which would've been first downs.  He really needs to work on his hands.

IU- 32 PSU- 24

Cardale Jones sure didn't read that perfectly.  He didn't even see Scales.

Your first mistake was reading ESPN.  You should probably think about that for a while, that was pretty bad.   Elliott had almost 200 yards on those 3 carries, yeah that's a kick to the nads.  We were helpless on that damn off tackle run each time.

The team left it all on the field, it just didn't go in their favor in the end.  Hopefully they realize they just gave the #1 team in the nation everything they could handle and use it as motivation going forward, instead of getting disheartened and having an emotional letdown next week.   The coaches didn't do them any favors with play calling.  Running up the middle was ineffective all night but they kept going back to that well no matter how many times it came up empty, and it put us in a lot of 2nd and 3rd and long situations.  Not a good recipe.   This is another season where Diamont really needed a redshirt to learn and work on his passing.  He's better than last season, but he's still pretty bad passing and that's kind of a big part of being a QB.  He showed some flashes but still has a ways to go.

Considering it's being reviewed by the student ethics committee, if he's found guilty he's probably won't play for Indiana again.