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I’m talking about staying on the staff. Hulls is a winner. If the new coach does want him fine, it’s their choice.

I get your point. IMO, telling his wife to leave the room in any circumstance is poor form and dumb. If it happened.

Former cheerleader. Explained why he lost all that weight for a while… he was almost no longer Pork Chop. He got the weight back though.

The thread is so entertaining, especially when IUBB hits Defcon 1.

Yea. Calbert is my all time favorite player, but he has ties to the old guard. Hulls joined when we were at rock bottom, got his @$$ kicked, and got through it to be a leader of a very good team. I’ve got a ton of respect for him and hope he can continue here.

I can’t imagine MM surviving at Duke.

Next coach may be cleaning house big time. Part of the issue is I would guess these guys are on NIL deals way too high vs how good they are. We have to overpay to get players here.

IU has more NIL, easier transfer rules, and more fan interest. Is that that enough to get him to move? I don't know. UM is a great school and it's a good gig. He may just stay there and keep building.

Yea. I love the Scott and Pam combo. So does Cig. Pam has an important role to play in teaming up with Scott to get control of the bball program back from all the bad influences. Now that Buckner (her boss) is a lame duck, she is probably more free to assert herself in this mess and clean it up.

I honestly can't imagine what Scott has to deal with internally and behind the scenes. It must be insane. But this is his life's calling to seize control and clean up this mess!

For PU fans, the worst case scenario for them is any sort of coaching change. We are still a sleeping giant, or more accurately a giant poisoned by our own moron trustees and donors, but if we can hire a coach that gets us healthy again we can be pretty good. Best case for PU is more Woody, but those days are rapidly coming to an end.

If true that's f'cking insane. For a program like IU to suck so bad for 25 years, it's world class idiots like this behind the scenes making it happen.

Buckner and Ferguson. At least Doyel called them out yesterday in the Star so more people are aware of these two morons. But they answer to no one, and no one bothers to try and ask them questions. They did neglected their duties, did serious damage to IUBB, and they will face no repercussions. I'm praying Dolson is in control and he does a good enough job as AD to have control for a long time. If we have an AD change, I worry about the power vacuum letting idiot trustees and donors back in.

It’s nice how Tom has been an advocate for IUBB and the fanbase over the years.

This is a bit of a wrench in the rev share. Schools were planning to send around 75% of the $22M/yr rev share to FB, which is consistent with the settlement to former athletes. I would guess schools figure out some way to get FB most of the rev share — just has to work that way in the end when FB is the sport generating most of the revenue to begin with. https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/1880024679500714243?s=46&t=zoBJGD5TXRBDk1ODyOZqlg

Yea. If a coach lays out their plan and shows progress fans get it. Fans were very patient with Crean’s rebuild — it was clear he cleaned house and high school recruiting took time. Part of the big issue with Woody was in Year 3, which is when the results of what a coach is building should really be apparent, his program literally imploded. Team was ranked in the 90’s with no high schools recruiting class — insane! The Woody supporters have given up on him now, but many still love blaming the fans, media, expectations, etc. when the issue has always been that Woody is a terrible coach and the program has been poorly run for a long time.

Yea. Our fans aren’t that bad. Just a bunch of nice midwesterners. Woody only ran into issues when his program completely imploded on the court and recruiting. It was all his fault. Heck, we were not good last year and still had a huge fan showing at MSG and Atlanta. Home attendance was good too for a bad team ranked in the 90’s. Coaches should know how to manage fans, it’s not hard. Fans are a valuable asset like you said — they cheer and donate. They might get mad online — who cares. If a coach praises the fans and takes accountability for results, fans will give the coach quite a bit of leeway. Woody did the opposite, which doesn’t pair well with the awful results he produces.

Ha. No we don’t, not even close.

Perhaps it was sabotage?! Can’t appoint your pal to be coach if Brad takes the job… ;)

I get there are concerns about the optics of firing Woody after three years. But, what about the optics of this season as a result of keeping him? The 20+ point blowouts, ranked in the 60’s after huge NIL spend, empty AH, and significant national media criticism. And we whiffed on another high school recruiting class, including top Indiana kids, which starts to compromise next year. These optics are a lot worse than firing a bad coach after three years.

He knows all the influential people at IU and also the state government. Cook is obviously our biggest donor and he is woven into that company/family. Unfortunately, he has a lot of influence. He and Quinn are a nightmare combo.

Ferguson. Chairman of Cook Medical, former Chair of BoT, etc. and was a mentor to Woody a long time ago or something like that, I can't remember, but they're close. Buckner and Ferguson pushed the Woody hire here. Apparently IUBB is their personal sandbox and they can appoint their old pal to be coach. Very poor behavior from them.

If Brad fails here we need to shutdown the program, or basically run it on a shoestring budget and give up and focus on FB.

Yea. IIRC for some periods growing up he lived out of a car. That sucks I can't imagine that. If we could have got good players like him in and made it work, that's great, but Kelvin generally couldn't get them to buy-in to the whole student-athlete strong team culture thing. I just remembered Kelvin had Bud Mackey committed. Kelvin was just way off on recruiting some of these guys.