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Hire a new coach that's good and NIL makes sense again.

Anyone who gives to bball NIL must be clinically insane.

Terrible excuse. He's been making this excuse forever, and in reality it's just the nature of college basketball. Thankfully Louisville made him look dumb.

Yea. With the portal we need someone in place asap so they have a shot to save who they want on the current roster and get some xfers in.

I don't know how it will go. If he actually misses the tourney with a $6M team he won't have any sort of case. And good luck going against Scott, his fanbase approval is very high. IMO, as long as Woody gets his money and some sort of made up resignation story to make it sound like not a firing, he'll stay fairly quiet, this whole thing has mostly been about status and money for Woody. But, maybe I am wrong and he goes out ugly. We'll see. Enjoy firing him Scott! Payback.

I think she inherited this mess. It’s tricky with the Board being her boss and she has been under pressure a bit the past few years. Hopefully when Quinn is gone she plays her part in making sure the chain of command is reestablished and people aren’t meddling with Scott’s job.

Agree, that’s the way to do it. Personally, I want the AD left alone and responsible to pick the bball coach. The bball coach also needs to be left alone to pick his staff. This creates clear accountability in the organization, which is important.

When Mike was hired: "I’ve been chosen to be the coach here and I’m going to try to tie it all together to make it all work, and we all will be one big family and win basketball games." That sure didn't happen.

It’s nice to see them quickly fall out of being elite with Lurch gone. With their poor recruiting, they should keep getting worse. Next few years probably a borderline top-20/25 team, which is great given Painter is a very good coach. He just hates NIL and the portal, which isn’t a good approach.

8-3, but $6M roster and #48 on KenPom and #63 in the NET. It's hard to start much worse than this.

IU will have to pay out Big Foot's buyout, but it's sure looking like these results are unacceptable to almost all the "stakeholders." The one that may be holding out is gone next year. I'm sure Scott is working on a short list of replacements. Also a midseason firing won't happen. The rest of the staff is pretty bad, it wouldn't help much anyway.

Tyme has been further exposed as a total moron.

I'm pretty sure he is about the status and money first and foremost. His effort clearly indicates IUBB comes in a distant third behind those two.

The stakeholders are wise and not kneejerk like the dirty fans. They will observe, evaluate, and contemplate the season as it plays out. Then they will consider all factors and make a strategic and pragmatic decision at the end of the season. This is how it is done at IU. In fact, this is how other schools do it. The unwashed fans just cannot understand the wisdom of the stakeholders -- Quinn really knows basketball!

Archie is bad, but there is no way Woody could do at Dayton what Archie did. Woody could be the worst coach in D1 this year. Top-5 NIL and he's on the bubble... I can't think of anyone else with such a mismatch of resources to results.

I'd love an update on the status of the "stakeholders." If there is not a groundswell, is there at least a "swell" against Mike? I bet there is and was before this. I'd also bet Scott is contemplating moving Mike out and he is planning to do that in three months.

Is Mike Woodson the worst coach in D1 bball? Who is worse?

Classic Woody game. He is so bad. Hope Cook and Yonkman are enjoying this.

Yea. There is just no reason it should be this way.

Looking at the whole season, and the odd airballs. It’s surprising he is better than this.

How did KC turn out to be so bad?

Not good when all these high school players take a hard look at Woody’s program and pass. I don’t blame them. I have a suspicion most of our portal gets were mostly because we paid way more than anyone else would.

Spot on. Even if the FB team won just eight games this year, I think this would still be happening. We have a FB program that is confident, unafraid, putting forward maximum effort, playing smart, and rejecting all excuses. And they're doing this at a historically very bad program. Personally that is all I can ask for, so even when they lose, I don't mind because I know it was a serious best effort worthy of support. It's almost the total opposite with the bball program. I'm not seeing basic efforts put forward in all sorts of areas, mostly with the staff, which is covered in this thread. And for me and many others this breaks the implicit pact with team and the students/alumni/fans, and thus we see a pretty empty AH and declining interest. And it's not a high bar to get the fans excited, so when they aren't, something is very wrong.

Yea, didn't buy us much fun in the Bahamas. TBD on the rest of the year, but not looking great.

Well, he is supposed to land HS recruits and he has tried. He gets one here and there. It’s still an issue.