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She's almost certainly making it all up for attention. May be a guy who knows. I agree I doubt we fire Woody midseason. I don't see much value in doing that -- no logical person to take over the HC role.

Wrong. There are well run athletic departments, and ones that aren't. Universities with well run athletic departments give their AD responsibility to manage the teams, they set expectations in terms of results, and then hold the AD accountable. Management 101, it applies to any organization, including ones within universities. Poorly run athletic departments have outsiders or "stakeholders" exerting influence. When this happens it's no longer clear who is responsible for the results or who should be held accountable (and some higher up "stakeholders" can't be held accountable, like Quinn). The outsiders are rarely better than the AD at making personnel decisions, and they often have huge conflicts ("He may be the best human being I know" lol). This is a nightmare situation for any organization and creates terrible results. Also, there is no way you're a trustee or whatever you claim to be.

And this is why IUBB has struggled for 25 years.

"Stakeholders" is a disappointing term to see pop up. I've read this board for awhile, but I can't recall if Cathy is verified as the actual Cathy or not. The bball coach and bball results should be the responsibility of the AD. Period. Don't like the results? Change the AD. This is basic management 101. Instead of letting the AD do their job, IU has "stakeholders," which is code for people who don't know what they're doing getting involved. We've had this issue for a long time: 1) The search committee that hired Davis without interviewing anyone else. 2) Herbert and trustees pushed and got Kelvin. 3) Quinn pushed and got Woody, and he and donors are keeping him around. This approach does not work well in any organization, including IU. Our best shot is letting Scott do his job and supporting him. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if that will happen.