Asha’man

Yeah I’m with you on better options. I think once you get past Stevens, Pearl, Oats, Donovan, Drew etc, then it becomes much more of cutting hairs between quality coaches.

Haters gonna hate. He is the GOAT and a Colts fan hate him bc he is better than Manning and kept the Colts from multiple Super Bowls. I say this as a 49ers fan.

To me Cronin is a guy with strong NIL has us a top 4 seed regularly. Which means in the hunt for deep runs. After that it’s a crap shoot. But if the floor is making the tournament each year, challenging for the Big Ten annually, and then see how the tournament goes, I’m down for that.

I’d take Wade. I’d take Sampson too. The rule Wade broke was actually illegal for the NCAA to even have in the first place. I actually like his cockiness and it’s needed at a place like IU imo. We can’t have some meek coach. We need someone who has a personality big enough for the job. This isn’t just an X’s and O’s job. It will take someone with a personality big enough to handle it all. Think Bruce Pearl, Wade, Oats, Stevens etc.

I think the May extension sheds some light on the search imo. I don’t think May signs his “low ball” extension if IU was after him. I think he would have got a lot more money if he could leverage an IU offer. Which tells me that Dolson either has his guy or he is still in discussions with guys he rates above May. Who those coaches are, I’m unsure. But there are many coaches I’d rather have before going to May, if the money was available for buyouts. Sounds like we have money to spend so…. May also took a $1 mil raise, still less than Archie at IU 8 years ago. And the buyout is still low at $7.5 mil. So he says he is staying at Michigan because he doesn’t have an IU offer. He also couldn’t leverage IU interest bc Dolson isn’t there yet and possibly won’t be. But if plans fall through May has a manageable buyout for IU to get him if their top options do not pan out. I don’t believe all the top tier options have been exhausted yet. In Dolson I trust and I think IU will be in good hands moving forward with whoever they hire because it will not be someone like Brownell or McCollom. It will be with someone who has a track record of success.

Quinn screwed us last year. I questioned May last year. But if it were May or Woodson, it’s a no brainer.

Sam Webb? If he said a gut feeling it means it’s a done deal and waiting for public announcement. I wouldn’t believe anyone but Sam. He is the unofficial Michigan athletic department mouthpiece.

I think everyone has missed the obvious: BehindTheBench is no other than Chris007. I mean instant love fest and posting back and forth.

I was listening to a podcast on my way home from work today and they said Iowa’s collective actually ran out of money and the person running it was paying the players out of pocket to fulfill the contracts. So to me sounds like the boosters at Iowa are tapped out already. Only the schools with the mega boosters will rise to the top until some sort of collective bargaining occurs. This actually helps IU in the short term to get things going. I think NIL is great. Woodson is just a bad coach. These same players under a good coach is a top 25 team and the talk of overpaying players goes away.

I think whoever gets the job needs to have the energy to match what the job demands. They need to be able to handle the “social” aspects of meeting with donors, high school coaches, and give speeches. Just because someone is younger doesn’t mean they will be here for the long haul. If someone is elite in college and young they can go to the NBA, see Donovan and Stevens. And to me if someone is 60-62 years old will give a solid decade, someone in their 50’s could give 2 decades. I don’t think we should take a flyer on a young coach by emphasizing a multi decade hire when the game will change and we will likely need to change to the “meta” of that day. NIL is now the lifeblood of every program so coaching X’s and O’s will be paramount for national championship success imo. The talent should always be there moving forward. The HC will need to be superb at roster construction and getting the pieces that make it work.

We need winning. Give me an established coach with a proven track record vs someone without a resume. Young and energy means nothing if they can’t win. With NIL get the best coach and we will be fine. Now that doesn’t mean that excludes a younger coach. But age shouldn’t be a requirement. Coach Cignetti is in his 60’s and has plenty of energy and excitement. And I think Dolson will go for experience, all things being equal.

Style slow. But he is successful and won a national title. He would need a GM who could handle the NIL, as that seems to be the reason he retired. But IU has NIL covered so it could work. But IU also fired his sister. So probably not likely.

He is a good coach.

There are photos of what beard did to show he did do it regardless of charges. Golden got backed and a release by his lawyers said there was zero evidence that he did what was accused. Add in Florida backed him it appears that the allegations were not true. That’s my guess as to why there is a difference in peoples opinions.

Not sure how you don’t hold him completely blameless. Unless he is ready to retire or quit his job, he had no option once Stevens said no. Even had he quit, the next person would have been forced to hire Woodson. You’re putting blame on a middle man for a decision made by top brass. Would it be your fault if your boss forced a decision on you and refused to listen to your opinion on the matter?

Iowa if they move in from Fran.

I believe I’ve seen where he wants out of LA and the NIL isn’t where he would like it to be.

Loss in the 1st game. Get him to IU ASAP to rebuild the roster.

I’ll play devils advocate with you. Do we really think Cincinnati is a team that should make the 2nd weekend routinely? I don’t. I remember them getting beat early under multiple coaches. UCLA he made a run but it’s also the NIL era and they do not have the boosters who care enough to bankroll them. So he is at a disadvantage there. You also mention 21 years of experience he is only 53 years old with 21 years of experience that’s someone who has had to grind to make it to the upper echelon. I’m not going to hold it against him that he wasn’t making runs to the final four as a 32 year old. He could also be entering his prime. The last 3 years have seen him make the sweet 16 twice and a Final Four. I’ll weight what he has done at a similar school with lesser NIL than what he did at UC and in his early 30’s. He could raise a banner for IU.

Agree with this take 100%. No reason to get an experienced coach if they have been mediocre. McCollum over Brownell everyday. I’d even take Pitino Jr over Brownell.

The rumors are fun but this is why I said I would believe it when I see it happen, concerning Stevens. Now on to the real search. That’s the benefit of BS saying no so quickly. Michigan is trying to give May more money. Now Dolson can zero in and work a deal with his agent being the top candidate. Michigan has deep pockets, but will they spend what it takes to keep him if IU spends like a top basketball school?

I love hearing the rumors and inside scoop. So keep it coming guys. But I’m with you, I will not get excited about IU basketball until there is an official announcement.

What’s the twitter smoke recap/summary?

I said at the end of last season to let him go and spend the NIL elsewhere. He is a good player but not for this team.

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