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That's what I'm saying man. IU should have gone and brought Dusty home, and we didn't. But it's water under the bridge. Nothing to do now but support the guy we have, and enjoy the ride.

IU whiffed on Dusty May. That is not debatable. I was also screaming to move on from Woodson and go get May. Even when much of this board was focused on "established" guys like Bruce Pearl. That being said, Devries had nothing to do with that decision. He should be compared to not just May, but all of the guys hired by major programs in the past few seasons. And he's pretty much right on track with most of that group.

Yea, I'll be a bit worried if we get to 10-10 by just holding serve on the easier games. That'd leave us 2-12 in Quad 1, which will be an easy talking point against us. Per Kenpom: - Chances that we win all three easier home games: 53% - Chances that we win at least one of the other four games: 75%

Right now we are projected to make the tourney as a 9 seed or so. There is a big difference between "this is as good as it gets" and "this is acceptable for a new coach in year 1".

Oregon is 1-11 in conference, and had lost 7 in a row by double digits until today. We need to take care of business Monday.

This team made it to late January before playing a single really close game. The kind of game that could truly go either way in the last two minutes. Now we've had 4 in a row.

Tucker is still a really good shooter when he's open and set. Hope this gets him going.

Yea we've traveled at least 3 times with no call. Did anyone else catch what Enright said to Boyd after taking that charge... LOL.

Massive game today... not necessarily a "must-win", but close. Hopefully we have someone ready to pull the fire alarm again if things are looking bad in the second half.

Surely some of you guys played and were shooters. I have zero problems with good shooters taking a deep catch and shoot three a few feet behind the line, if they are balanced and in rhythm. It's not that hard of a shot. In fact, it's a lot easier than some of the fadeaways Devries takes coming off screens and not being set. I am not in love with the 26 footers off the dribble when moving laterally. That's a hard shot. Lamar is really the main offender here. Then again, Lamar is also around 40% from three so coach may not think it's worth it to tone down his aggressiveness.

Thought it'd be interesting to compare Devries to the other major programs who have made hires in the last two years. For the 2024 hires, I listed their numbers as they stood on Feb 1 of their first season. Sorted by Kenpom rank. Dusty May, Michigan: 15-5, (7-2 Big Ten). Kenpom #21 Mark Pope, UK: 15-5, (4-3 SEC). KP #22 Jake Diebler, Ohio St: 13-8, (5-5 Big Ten). KP #25 Pat Kelsey, Louisville: 16-5, (9-1 in a very down ACC). KP #26 Darian Devries, IU: 15-7, (6-5 Big Ten). KP #33 Sean Miller, Texas: 13-9, (4-5 SEC). KP #34 John Calipari, Arkansas: 12-8, (1-6 SEC). KP #61 Our guy is not really an outlier in the positive or negative direction. Time will tell

I thought Woodson was a bad hire when he was announced. I gave him a chance. By the end of year 3 it was clear he wasn't the guy and I wanted us to move on. If you can't see the differences between Woodson after year 3 and Devries halfway through year 1, I'm not sure what to tell you. To be clear I'm not saying Devries is the man. He might have a great career at IU. He might not. I'm saying none of us know yet.

Thank you for that. I have Youtube TV and it is such a superior app, especially watching on delay. I'll check there

How many Peacock games have we had now? That app is horrible.

This thread was started by the same person who told me "We suck and have no hope for improvement" when we were like 10-3. A joke? If you say so

We have this thread because a small subset of our fans cannot handle any level of adversity without losing their minds. And that type of person loves to complain on the internet. This thread was posted halfway through our new coach's first season, at which point the team was 12-6, 3-4 in conference. I am not a mod but I think the existence of this thread is kind of embarrassing to our fanbase.

Likely some confusion since if Bailey missed the second, we'd only be up 2 and obviously not fouling. But he has to get that communicated to team that we are fouling up three. They gave us a great opportunity to do it at halfcourt right in front of coach

Also it may get lost in the OTs... but take a bow Reed Bailey. What a difference it makes when he plays like that.

Absolute coaching malpractice not to foul up 3 in regulation. That's the most disappointed I've been in Devries all season. Not to mention the disaster last two minutes leading up to that. Incredible effort though by the guys in there at the end. They bailed coach out

I said it earlier. Clearest path is split in LA, beat Wisconsin at home. Then you have the last two as chances to seal it. Just make the damn tourney this year, and next year let's please be discussing potential seeds at this time of year instead of the bubble again.

Predictive metrics see it differently. MSU at home, Kenpom gives us 37% chance to win. Torvik says 50%. Minnesota game, Kenpom gives the Gophers a 19% chance to win. Torvik 16%. I'm not taking these numbers as gospel but I like them as a rough estimate. Vs Minn, NU, Oregon and @ Illinois and Purdue are more like 80/20 or 20/80 games based on the metrics. Not locks obviously, but it would be pretty surprising if more than 1 of them went differently than we expect it to.

Yes, I agree. @ UCLA, @ USC, vs Wisc, vs MSU, and @ OSU are the 5 swing games. Need to get 2 or 3 of them

Agree, but we only have 5 of those "60/40" or "40/60" type games left. Including the next three in a row. So it's not hyperbole to say this next little stretch is crucial to our chances.

Agree with all of this. Purdue would be crazy to move on from Painter. His style is pretty ideal for a program that's not going to be an NIL powerhouse.

Agree some matchups will be better suited for Conerway. He does things that nobody else on the roster can. But if we are playing a team who's star player is their PG, Enright is a must-play. (see Kansas St and Purdue) At this point though, I think you just start one of them, and Dorn plays as many minutes as fatigue/fouls allow.