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Makes perfectly good sense. Won 19 games while hamstrung with one of the worst backcourts in major college basketball. Not only is that not the case this year, the backcourt and wing play is actually the strength of this team.

That's exactly what "having that talk" means.

Regular season. Would likely net a 6 or 7 seed. Not good enough.

Going 20-11 would be highly disappointing given we lost 3-4 non-conference games. I think the floor is 22 wins this year. But this is a 25+ win team that I believe will challenge for a B10 title all year and be a top 4 seed in the dance. If IU goes 20-11 and flames early in the tournament, it's perfectly fine to have that talk with Woodson. But it has to happen first.

Injury as you alluded too is one. Imbalanced schedules are another, not all schedules are created equally in a 20 team league. And a middling season wouldn't see the Hoosiers in contention for a B10 title. That'd be something like 11-9, 10-10 which I stated in my previous post would be highly disappointing and unacceptable. Look, I'm not irrational like most people in this thread. If IU goes 16-4 in the B10 and God forbid a team like UCLA goes 17-3 and wins it by a game my initial reaction isn't going to be, "FiRE MIkE WOoDSoN". I'm going to tip my hat to UCLA and look forward to the tournament as a 2 or 3 seed. If that's your initial reaction (which I have no doubt it will be), I'll take great satisfaction knowing how miserable you'll be for another offseason.

I'm not going to say win a B10 championship or else because there's so many different variables that go into winning one, but yes, I will be extremely disappointed if we aren't in contention throughout.

I think IU has the best and most versatile roster in the B10 top to bottom this year. We shall see.

JFC, you do realize Kopp took a reduced role to come here right? And his efficiency soared.

Kopp? Goode?

So you still haven't answered as to who should have been shooting more 3's last year? Again, typical but expected. The offense was tailored to the personnel. You can't, or better yet, you refuse to answer the question because we both know the answer: bad shooting teams shouldn't shoot more. It's like saying a triple option team should pass 40 times a game. As far as the rest of your nonsense goes, I've said repeatedly that Woodson and the staff's misevaluation of Xavier Johnson and Trey Galloway as a lead guard was unacceptable. Not landing someone like Love or Knecht from the portal doomed last season. And yeah if Rice has a season long slump like he did the last 6-7 games of last year that tanked his average, probably in trouble. I don't see it happening though. Best part about freshman is that they become sophomores. Reneau and Ware took fantastic freshman to sophomore leaps under Woodson and I expect the same for Rice, Carlyle, and Mgbako. Woodson has addressed everything this offseason that this board has been bitching about: guard play and shooting. It does not matter what you run offensively if you don't have solid guard play. Myles Rice instantly becomes one of the best PG's in the B10 and if you dig deep enough into advanced stats, Carlyle shot the ball exceptionally well playing off ball, a role he'll most likely take next year.

Still haven't answered the question. Who else did you want attempting more 3's? Galloway? Gunn? Galloway shooting 200 3's vs 100 3's is a better formula for winning? I'd love to hear the analysis behind that.

Right, which is why I said Cupps played out of necessity. I’m guessing the future outlook on Cupps is different had he only played 9-10 mpg which I’m sure was the goal at the start of the season. To your last paragraph, I agree with you. But how many people have actually said this? A handful? Woodson very clearly tried to get guys like Love, Dingle, Knecht, etc just didn’t happen.

Cupps was a true freshman who played way too much out of necessity. Way too early to make that call for Gabe. Similarly to Gunn who just didn’t progress fast enough from freshman to sophomore year. Staff messed up not getting a lead/ball dominant guard in the portal last offseason. That issue has been addressed and then some this offseason.

Dodge and attack. Typical but expected.

Answer the question.

What is false? That IU lacked 3 point shooters last year? Tell me where I’m wrong? Mgbako was a solid shooter and attempted 153 three’s as a freshman, 2nd most of any freshman in the conference. But who else on the team should have been shooting more three’s last year? Whatever nonsense retort you’re about to send, I could easily make the argument the team should have actually been shooting less. The idea that Galloway, Gunn, etc should have been shooting more from the perimeter is just flat out absurd. And I love how you continue to dodge the notion that Purdue played through the post every time down last season, as if playing through the post is some forbidden or unwritten rule. I’m guessing you don’t even know what “playing through the post” means, it most certainly doesn’t mean whatever you’re implying.

Right. That's why I called it a grave misevaluation...the fact that he was the starting PG for 3 seasons. I don't blame Woodson and staff in the least for playing through two elite big men, I blame them for not surrounding them with better guards.

Agreed

We didn't shoot a lot of 3's the last two years because we had one player in the lineup each of those years capable of making 3's on any kind of volume. Purdue played through the post with two bigs on the court last year and still shot a lot of 3's because they had three players on the perimeter capable of making a high volume number of 3 point shots. This isn't hard to understand. Nobody played through the post more than Purdue last year.

I think the staff is going to go all-in on Harlason and Mullins. Would be surprised if we don't get at least one.

I've never been as high on Sisley as some others have been. If he wasn't a Southern IN kid I wouldn't particularly care if we recruited him or not. Was told by the same person that IU has a great shot at Haralson if he does indeed play in college. Sounds like OTE could be on the table.

Ran into an old friend directly affiliated with Indiana Elite this weekend and asked him for an honest opinion on where he thinks the 17U trio is going to end up. Mullins---Indiana. Dad is loving the recruiting process and being the center of attention, but says Braylon is a momma's boy and going out of state is likely to be the deal breaker. Moreno--His gut says Kentucky. Kentucky has two blue chip in-state recruits this year and one of them is going to end up at UNC/Alabama. The optics of losing a 2nd (Moreno) are not good. Says UK will pull out all the stops to keep him home. Sisley--was surprised by this but said ND or Michigan State. Says Trent isn't as high on Indiana as people want to believe. His family, especially his dad, aren't thrilled with the idea of him going to Purdue and ND or MSU is a compromise.

Woodson/staff's greatest failure by far and away was their grave misevaluation of Xavier Johnson as a starting PG in this conference. It doesn't matter what style or scheme you play if you don't have a consistent floor general. Purdue played through the post every possession last season (while playing two bigs) and shot 40% from 3 while having the 2nd most efficient offense in the country. If our back court is as good as advertised this year, style of play/scheme will become irrelevant.

I'd love for Moreno to come, as I would Mullins and Sisley, but I'd have serious reservations about committing a starting role to Moreno right out of the gate. You'd still need portal help and/or hope Bryson Tiller still comes.

He's not going to Purdue