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I've heard it Rick P, Alford, and now Beilein. Honestly would rather have Rick P or Alford over Crean. Even if Rick P had to be fired, and lets say we had to do a major rebuild where we missed the tournament for 3 years.... Oh wait, that's what happened with Crean.

If you listen to the whole podcast you may be worried about the program in general. It was eye opening on how bad the administration is Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/Indiana-basketball-Hoosier-Hysterics-Podcast-Brian-Snow-130178176/ Has anyone else listened to this? Pretty eye opening about the Crean era. Especially considering the Kyrie Irving recruiting story. So that was in 2009, if you're Fred Glass and know these inside stories in 2009, how do you justify the extension? I just can't believe it. At about the hour mark they speak about how the program was in the stone age when Archie was hired. It made it seem that the Administration is just clueless. Really good insight for someone like me, who doesn't know the intricacies of travel before games and things like that.

I would pay top dollar if someone could recreate this design on a shirt, but change the faces to McRObbie, Glass, and Shoulders.

I've heard that Izzo, Alford, Pitino, all wanted the job and that Calipari would have "crawled" from Memphis to get the job. I've also heard Brad Stevens had in his contract that he could leave to go to IU if he had the opportunity... Which just begs the question; how the heck did we end up with 9 years of FCTC?

Yes, but you don't want to have to hire an AD at the same time you hire a Coach, that's how we ended up with Tom Crean to begin with. They had a blue ribbon committee and chose Crean. Personally, I would have kept Dakich for a year and then hired an AD to then make the decision for the School. Why was a board of people including Gonso making a basketball hire, when none of them knew anything about basketball? That's why you have to give the new AD runway before firing and hiring a new coach. And again Archie may work out.

Dakich seems to think Gonso is also the problem. Time will tell Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

What I hear some people saying on multiple boards is... Our board of trustees is extremely poor when it comes to making hires, our President is terrible and needs to be replaced, and our AD needs to be fired. But the president will not fire the AD, and even if he does, the BOT will just go out and make another terrible hire. thus continuing the circle of suck. Dakich was on ESPN in 2016 after we fired Crean and was asked what are the pros and cons of IUBB and he stated that the administration is terrible. Although some people dislike Dakich, he's correct on that. Also, I saw on twitter that an alumni was running for the BOT on a Sports type platform. I don't have a link, but I'd like to know how we can promote and vote for him.

I started this thread, the "Fire Fred Glass" thread as a safe space for people like me to vent their frustrations with the Athletic Department. I hope that no one gets blocked by you for their opinions in this thread. Out of the following members on the BOT, which ones are capable in both firing Fred Glass and making the correct hire going forward? Gonso, McRobbie and Fred Glass act like best friends, no? It seems like the system of checks and balances are all in favor of retaining him for many more years to come.

Just to play devils advocate. What other Big 10 schools haven't spend money on huge capital campaigns following the increased School enrollment after the great recession? Another poster had mentioned that although we are taking steps forward, we still have worse facilities than Nebraska. If every AD is improving their facilities, how can we really say that is a strong point of Glass?

SO IU HAS SPENT MORE THAN ANY OTHER SCHOOL IN THE BIG TEN AND HAD THESE RESULTS!!!!! How is this helping your argument. Someone who has this budget with these results is clearly a waste of capital. I'm laughing. Glass: Look at how much money we're making and spending to be an ELITE program! IUBB: misses 7 tournaments in 11 years.

I'm not judging glass based on two years of Archie. I'm judging him based on 11 years on the job. Fred didn't hire Crean, but he could have definitely fired him. The extension also is the SAME thing as hiring him. I definitely see an NCAA team next year. I don't however, see one that is a legitimate candidate to compete for a national title. I get Archie has a bad roster, but I am fully blaming Glass for hanging onto Crean for too long which caused this terrible roster. I think had Crean landed Kris Wilkes, Fred would not have fired him.

But any AD at a Big 10 school will be judged on both performances in Basketball and in football. Those are the revenue generating sports. And again i'm not saying that this is a knee jerk reaction to Archie's second season, but what I am saying is that this is the 7th missed tournament in 11 years. All under Fred Glass. So name a Big10 School that will look at his records and see 7 missed basketball tournaments in 11 years and 0 winning football seasons or bowl wins. Name 1 school that will look at that and say "that's our guy". He's not hire-able in the open market. If you're on the outside looking in, the records scream poor upper management.

If he was fired, would there be any interest from any other Big10 schools to hire him? any other Power 5 schools? I'm well aware that my take is based purely on the success of the basketball team. But that is what he's judged on. The basketball team, not the other sports.

I've never been a fan of judging a coach by a single season, I am however a fan of taking a holistic approach at the body of work and trajectory of a program. So the same would go for an Athletic Director. Fred Glass' body of work is 7 missed tournaments in 11 years. At this point it will be too early to tell about next season, but this roster does not scream NCAA championship caliber next year or possibly the year after. Just what a terrible athletic director. I'm still giving Archie 5 total years, so he has 3 left to prove something to me. But we need a new AD that knows what he's doing. If it turns out Archie is not our guy in 2 years, we need an AD that can recruit a top level coach. I'm not advocating to replace archie, but I'm always keeping tabs on Billy D, Brad Stevens, Chris Beard, and a few others.

Should I get a few of these made?

I love the story Dakich tells about how while he was at Bowling Green he called the AD and told him to hire Urban Meyer, whom was also at BG at the time. The AD laughed in Dakich's face and hired Gerry DiNardo instead.

Can we start submitting our fire Fred Glass Memes here?

Needed to vent since we're down 20. I hope we still win, but doesn't look promising. Glass needs to go. 7 missed tournaments in 11 years under his watch. Here is a list of all the things he's done wrong (all are my opinion, and are not in any order) 1. The Crean extension. This was so bad considering he gave FCTC the extension AFTER B. Stevens had just been to 2 consecutive NC runs. 2. The failure to Fire Crean in 2014 when it was apparent he wasn't the right fit. 3. The fact he resigned with Adidas. 4. The handling of Kevin Wilson and the Tom Allen Hire. 5. his 200 page manifesto in which he now designs the mens basketball uniforms 6. His total rebuild comments.

I'm going to sound harsh. I love Archie and think he'll turn it around, but I'd replace Archie with Brad Stevens the exact millisecond that he became available. Even if Archie had just came off an Elite 8, I'd still let him go in favor of Brad Stevens. Side note, I'm not a fan of recency bias, which is why I thought that Crean should have been fired in 2014. People were too caught up in his S16 appearances to see the whole picture IMO.

As someone who doesn't follow the NBA, can a poster help me understand if Boston is going through another rebuild? Do you think Brad gets bored of the NBA knowing that his team will be going through a rebuild? DO WE HAVE A SHOT?

Seeing it on twitter, hearing it on JMV, and even my friends are starting to speak up via text. Once people hear 7 missed tournaments in 11 years he becomes hard to defend. Who is responsible for the hiring and firing of the AD? is it the board of trustees, or McRobbie? and when would a move be made (if a move were to be made)?

If you're Jurich, do you self report? (NOPE) Was Jurich the one ordering the Strippers. (NOPE) Guilt by association is a Dangerous Fallacy. He backs his coaches to a fault (as long as they're winning). There is empirical evidence that Jurich is a great AD. He's made some amazing hires, he's a winner. Now look at Glass' Body of work. In his 11th year IU has not had a single winning football season and will miss its 7th out of 11th March Madness.

Just think if Fred Glass hadn’t been convinced that Crean got a 4 year honeymoon. We fire Crean in Year 3 and hire Brad Stevens:. and we still get Zeller. Instead we are in this mess years later. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Has anyone actually heard of Glass is in Jeopardy of losing his job? I know Dakich today on the radio said that former IU greats have texted him saying Glass needs to go. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners