Aaron

Don't disagree. Just make sure you are comfortable with elite talent so you don't become Steve Pikiell of this season. If she feels she can comfortably get top talent go for it. If she doesn't feel she can make that work and will do more harm than good, avoid it. I trust her however she does it, and who she brings in will tell us where she stands on all of this. Presser makes it sounds like she gets it.

Got You.

Or getting top players could cause her whole system to crash just like it did for Steve Pikiell last year and Matt Painter and Jay Wright a decade ago or more. Not saying it would, but have to recruit and run what you are comfortable with and if getting top players collapses the whole foundation as it did in these three cases, you have done more harm then good and have to pivot back to comfortability as Painter has and Wright did and assume Pikiell will have to now.

Moren just said she wants to get bigger and more athletic so not sure those people fit.

Not how Moren recruits and I am fine with that. Like Painter she wants people who fit her system and generally the top players won't. Ask Steve Pikiell about that:). Never go away from what works in name of elite talent which both Painter and Pikiell have shown definitively makes it worse when tried. Don't need Moren to do that experiment.

My guess is Lex wanted to be the starter but Moren wants someone more athletic who can score from portal and this is what she was one of the situations she was referring to in closing presser when wanting to get more athletic. Starting PG and C a must in portal.

Yes and she definitely did not carpe diem with the role she was given and its why team struggled for so long. A starting level big ten center to spring shooters is a must with Moren's offense and the fact they worked around not having one shows what an elite coach is. Strip did admirably but her ceiling is a backup not a starter and that is what she was brought in for.

Jules and Lily were not a surprise and I think would be mutual. Outside of Shay, Yarden, Lenee, and maybe Lex, not sure there is anyone else the coach would scramble to keep. Could certainly see others out but it would surprise no one if they left and certainly not indictment on program.

This I think was mutual as I think they want Faith to be main backup to take the role primary as a junior and need a starter level player in portal with Lilly caught in between. I don't get the feeling anyone else is leaving outside of maybe someone near end of bench but we will see. Certainly would be super surprised to see Yarden leave based on everything I have heard.

Well then that certainly would not be a reason to leave then or the coaching staff wanting her to leave. However, like I said I would take with very serious grain of salt.

Take it with a whole salt shaker and swallow all the salt. Nothing of the sort happened. She has had zero issues at IU.

Yes. Not serious but that's why she didn't play in NCAA's. Had nothing to do with transferring.

There is def not one. People are making up rumors or hearing unsubstantiated rumors and I can say that with complete confidence.

I can tell you with complete confidence there has been zero issue or 'incident' with Garzon and anything heard is not at all true. I know she likes IU and expect her back unless there is some NIL offer IU can't match but even then for optics they really need to step up to her asking price whatever that is.

They don't even have that many players as freshman they are bringing 'along slowly' on current roster. Everyone else is very much in the main rotation or projecting as a main contributor outside Jules and maybe Henna. There is no one else on this roster who has been 'brought along slowly'. Pretty much every major contributor has played from get go last few years so not sure who could be complaining about 'being brought along slowly' outside of transfers and it takes a very specific player to play in Moren's system and they clearly did not fit it. I can't speak for NIL aspect. I had Jules and Lily potentially transferring based on guess alone with new center from portal coming in (no idea who). Can't speak to NIL situation but never heard Moren complain and she seems to be targeting very specific players purposely. IU may need to up their NIL game here but so will everyone else outside maybe the top 3-4 programs.