RaceToTheTop

But in the case of Troy and JBJ, that writing was already on the wall -- that they were looking to go pro. Both had tested the water the year before. In terms of Juwan getting a summer league spot somewhere, I'd say that was a given. That really doesn't mean much. Hell, Chris Kramer had a summer league spot with the Pacers when he graduated.

And they won their first 26 games of the season and were ranked #1. I'm not sure that 'bad coaching' results in that kind of year, regardless of the players on the team.

So let’s say those guys have him on their radar as being, say, the 80th best player. You certainly aren’t going to use a top 50 pick on him and even if you choose to use a very late second round pick, the proper end game isn’t to draft a guy 80th on your board.....it’s to draft a guy you like that someone else draft after you. Morgan isn’t going to be drafted, so at best he could be getting told that “hey, we might be interested in your game enough to bring you in as an undrafted free agent.” i just am not seeing the narrative where he is being told he could get drafted, which IMO would be the minimum necessary to convince someone who wasn’t planning on even going through the process doing so. when Williams and Blackmon left, neither were considered draft worthy — but it was pretty much already a conclusion that each was leaving after their junior year regardless.

Further proof: IU athletic website refers to him being ranked at #71 by one of the services. He absolutely was a top 100 player for 2018. http://iuhoosiers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=9472

Exactly. Here is an article that refers to him when he signed. Notice it refers to him being a 4 star 2018 recruit at 247, checking the rankings now, the third ranked player in Minnesota is rated 48th nationally. https://www.btpowerhouse.com/2017/7/16/15979392/2018-basketball-recruiting-four-star-power-forward-race-thompson-commits-to-indiana-hoosiers You can't find his national ranking now since he reclassified, but I clearly remember him being ranked in the 80s at 247.

So, who is the better combination singer/basketball player? Prince or VO?

Have to think he's headed for All-NBA second team, Most Improved, and All-defensive first team. And he and Sabonis have now been tied to two huge lopsided trades....first the Thunder fleeced the Magic, flipping one year of Serge Ibaka for Oladipo, the 11th pick in 2016 (which was Domantos Sabonis) and Ersan Ilyasova (a 10 and 7 guy in Philly despite only playing 24 mpg) for one year of Serge Ibaka.....and then the Thunder flipped Sabonis and Oladipo for what will probably be one year of Paul George.

And if he were going to simply use the draft process to find out what he needed to improve at and had no intention of hiring an agent, he would also be looking to sign a lease. I guess I don't get see why this is significant one way or another.

BTW, if he did in fact sign a lease that is more of indication that he intends to come back....not that he intends to leave. When you hear 'he signed a lease', which is the more logical narrative? A. He intends to play at IU next year but wants to know what he needs to work on and puts his name in the draft or B. He wasn't going to put his name in, and despite not being 'in NBA team's top 100', he started hearing from teams that he was a draftable player and could make a roster. I'm going with option A.

The lease 'issue' is just silly. In a college town like Bloomington, all attractive housing opportunities are going to get picked up. And the assumption that signing a lease meant that Morgan wasn't ever going to get his talent evaluated after the season is simply a false narrative. What's more likely is that there was an actual discussion between Morgan and the landlord of his intentions -- that he was going to put his name in the draft to see what he worked on but most likely return to school. A landlord renting to a junior basketball player in the town of Bloomington isn't oblivious. There is no way that this would end up with Morgan signing a lease, turning pro, and then paying a year's rent for an apartment he ends up never living in.

Glass half full: he's told that and works on hard in the offseason and improves on the shot. One thing that I am a little concerned with is when Davis comes back how he and Morgan co-exist offensively. IMO, we were underwhelming last year when they were on the court at the same time.

I live about five minutes from where Dakich attended high school. The amount of people around here that think he's a d-bag is incredible.

For the record, 63 players got invited to the NBA combine last year and there were 5 alternates. But we are to believe that he isn't in the people's top 100 but could possibly get an combine invite based on his play in the next......zero games?

LOL at the 'he is being marketed' line.

So, Juwan 'isnt in the top 100 by NBA' scouts....Dan Dakich talks out of @$$, but not this time!....no mocks have him in the draft because, well, there aren't many 6'7" power forwards in the NBA..... Believe me, with every inside information that gets out on the internet today, something as innocuous as 'some NBA draft scouts think Juwan Morgan might get a combine invite' seems like something that people wouldn't exactly trying to keep a secret. I'mma calling BS.

College QB ratings don't take into account rushing. It's all based on passing stats. Dawkins ran for 944 yards as a junior....and you have to keep in mind that college rushing stats count sacks as negative rushing plays, so in reality he probably ran for close to 1200 that year. Remember that Ramsey is a pretty good rusher, but even getting more than half the reps last year his rushing total for the season was only 226 yards due to sack yardage counted as negative rushing yards. I wouldn't be too discouraged by Dawkins losing his starting job last year.....he lost it to Khalil Tate who is a pretty darn dual threat college quarterback.

The NCAA has been told by the FBI that they are not to do any investigation until the FBI one is done. So the thing is that the FBI will have already produced facts prior to the NCAA going into it.....which means that it's going to be hard for them to hide their heads in the sand like they did with UNC.

You are giving the NCAA too much credit. It's the FBI who busted the adidas schools. NCAA didn't do anything.

The probe isn't done. And it's not going to be as easy for the NCAA to sweep it under the rug since the FBI is involved.

Enter Cody Rhodes: "And Bullet Club is fine."

If we are talking UNC, I don't know if fake classes really count as 'doing it both'.

Robert Johnson was no better this year than he was a junior....when he was our fourth best player. The loss of him will have everything to do with who steps up and can shoot the ball and little to do with him. We'd miss Blackmon tremendously this year not because of his overall game but rather his ability to shoot from deep....especially the fact that he could do so when guarded. RoJo wasn't that type of player offensively -- he needed space.

It's also worth mentioning that they are 7-12 and three of their four double figure scorers are seniors. The other is a point guard. They certainly would be bringing in three studs if Romeo commits, but there is going to be nothing much around them. Not sure three freshman studs and nothing else amounts to much.

True....but Vanderbilt is 7-12 and in last place in the SEC. If he is waiting for a reason not to go to Vandy, it's right in front of him.

There wasn't anyone watching Moore late in his senior high school season that thought we wouldn't want him. Anyone saying different is being revisionist. Check his draftexpress profile from last April. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Clifton-Moore-109337/