Crimson and Cream

I remember going to the big win (at the time) against Sparty last year and being astounded at how constantly lost Lagow was at what play was supposed to be ran. So many timeouts had to be wasted because he came walking back to the sideline confused on what to do. Then of course like you mentioned the countless mind blowing passes nowhere near our guys and directly to the opposing teams. Him having a rocket arm means nothing if he can't control it.

I had just went and looked up those stats only to see you'd beaten me to it That's exactly it. Turnovers lose you games. At the end of the day, he needs to turn the ball over a lot less. Needs to focus on making better reads and safer throws. Keep the offense on the field.

He's certainly not good. Mediocre at best.

I was preparing to type the exact same thing. No doubt improvements have been made but those are played up a ton lol.

So disappointed to hear about Patrick but hopefully he takes care of his knees, gets that degree, and has success wherever he ends up at next. Shame we'll never see if he really was "the most talented player on the team". Hopefully Brookins, A-Rod, Majette, Gest, Williams, and a heavy (pun intended) dosage of short yardage touches for Natee will have success.

Unfortunately for you guys Phil still isn't running things in NY because who knows what kind of ridiculous offer he might make.

Oh I have no doubt Phoenix probably still wants him, but I doubt they give up that much for him. NY is not giving up Porzingis in any deal for Irving. Melo and picks is what they're trying to offer. Also, Kyrie doesn't have a no-trade clause, so his list doesn't mean anything.

They could have had Bledsoe/Jackson (or PG) before the draft but passed on it. Now they have a little less leverage so Phoenix isn't likely going to give up both.

Lol you're not getting either of those combos for Irving

NY is going hard after him. Phoenix has been after him for a while now. I could see Denver hopping on board too. A deal of Faried, Barton, and Mudiay for Irving would work financially. For Phoenix you could be looking at something like Irving and TT for Bledsoe, Chandler, and either Chriss/Bender.

Correct he does

This is just an extremely fascinating scenario to me, so much going on. The timing of this, well after the majority of FA, is crazy and surely making a lot of GMs pull their hair out. Boston has to be sitting there smiling as Cleveland self destructs a year early and they have a great chance to overtake the East now. Who trades for Kyrie? Or does Cleveland actually trade LeBron instead and hang onto Kyrie? Also hilarious because Cleveland just hired their new first time GM today. Welcome aboard, now fix this gigantic mess.

He's back at practice. I haven't heard anything on any kind of punishment. Not to downplay it because it was just a stupid thing to do, but it's not a real major incident. Hopefully chalk it up as a learning experience and don't let it happen again.

I've complained about it multiple times this year in a Pacers group I'm in. The Orlando summer league is such a joke compared to the other two.

I'm so confused and yet happy at the same time

Beat me to it

If there's a Pitino involved you can rest assured some form of "smashing" will occur

Dumb decision on his part, hopefully it's a lesson learned. Could definitely be worse.

Correct. Apparently several teams were interested in sign-and-trades.

I'd like to know what other offers were out there. T-Wolves weren't wanting to give up a first to dump Aldrich so it sounds like KP just went with the best offer available, which is understandable. I just hope we're able to re-sign Joseph next year if he plays well this season.

Pacers send Miles to the Raptors for Cory Joseph. I like Joseph but if this is just a one year rental I don't like the deal.

Saw a lot of this game. Typical Troy, very aggressive playing with a lot of energy. He has improved his shot which has helped him a lot. Still too many turnovers but that's part of the good Troy/bad Troy game we all know. He won't be a free agent for long.

^That video gave me a chill down my spine

JBJ with 8 points (3-6 shooting, 1-3 from 3) and 4 rebounds in his NBA Summer League debut with Philly. I gotta say, his defense was....well it was a familiar sight and that's not a good thing.