Dave from Dayton

Uh, no. IU does not need a uniter. IU needs a winner. RMK was not a uniter. Unite the fans...yeah, right. Now there's a priority to put into a head coach's contract. /s

"Again generalizing people." Then the poster goes on with "the best ceiling most of us have is sweet sixteen with a possible elite 8 chance"..." That’s loser mentality and defeatism." Sounds a lot like generalizing. Kind of weird though. RMK didn't win a banner each and every year. In between those 3 NCs, I see that he and we were settling for mediocrity of not reacing the last three days. Funny. Ironic. I put it to you, Banksy- isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen! Well, I'm not settling for a sweet sixteen or possible elite 8 chance. I'm going to live happily ever after and continue cheering for IU. You can project whatever you want to and diss the coach for his personality traits. He is human after all. RMK wasn't...ahem...quirky. Mike Davis wasn't... Nor was Dan D. Not at all goofy. Nor he who must not be named. (Think cell phone and team running amok). Hey and car salesman Top Cat Crean was normal as well normal along the lines of Hollywood. Archie was pure milquetoast. Woodson? Yeah, his look of love is quite motivational. Yeah, human too. What the hell does that have to do with winning? Now I think Coach Woodson's flawed selections of guards, bad platooning of subs, and strange or lack of play calling and reliance on bigs and losing has continued to drive us cray cray. OMG! He is such a jerk (?) because he is a human. OK. Next issue. Let's talk about the suits or sweaters or choice of cars or how he does his facial hair next. Cool bro. I know, I know, this is the fire Coach Woodson thread. Go for it. Does it help to claim fans settle for mediocrity? When one doesn't even know that or them...

I' m just happy that people really want IU to win at basketball and give attention to Btown Banners. Whether they post positive or negative comments about CMW is their personal choice and generally makes no difference to me. If one does not like CMW's persona and/or coaching, then one might not have liked RMK's later time at IU. I got tired and disappointed at times with RMK. But I was of the opinion that the administration did not deal correctly with him. Tough job that, for sure. He was absolutely superb with X's and O's and getting the most out of matchups and defense and the team as a whole. I don't get it why some keep posting the same stuff. But it is not up to me, and I can't and won't do anything except laugh or shake my head at the pointlessness of some of it. People may be getting swayed by style somewhat and not substance. But in this time of the all-powerful videos and social media, that's pretty much what we see outside of the few hours of actual games. The meme with "Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?" if one doesn't recognize it is from a really funny antiwar/comedy flick produced in 1970...Kelly's Heroes. The airhead in the meme is recently deceased actor Donald Sutherland in an 'oddball' character. He also played Hawkeye Pierce in the movie MASH. I am a fan of his acting, movies and IU basketball. I have high hopes for this year. It looks like we just may finally have really good and healthy guards and distributors and might even have players that may be productive from outside. Imagine that. Late next season, if CMW and the team do not do well...

I support Mike Woodson...and the IU men's basketball team! Until such time as he is no longer the Head Basketball Coach of Indiana University. (This does not mean that I think that he is or isn't going in the right direction or winning enough or...maybe he is not an X's and O's guy, or...I just don't know...maybe give him another 20 years to get it right...hmm...or...)

Very cool that Al Durham is very hot! Please excuse the English below...it is a quote. "...last season in the Hamburg regular league are 14.4 points, 3.4 rebounds and 4 assists per game in the league with 39% in three-point shooting. In the play-off he will get 24 points, 3 rebounds and 3.5 assists in the two games they will play. The German team will also play the Eurocup with 10.8 points, 2.8 rebounds and 3.9 assists with 44% from three points. Durham, new Gironí player: “My objective is to always improve, even better than the previous season. I will help the companies and make the stands vibrate.” San Emeterio, sports manager: “He is a player who will help a lot in the base and guard position. He is a player who generates a lot from the pick and roll, capable of attacking the ball a lot and, above all, fundamentally, he is a player in clear progress.” Per ALJAMI DURHAM IS GIRONÍ - Basquet Girona I spent a few minutes searching to find out their schedule, competition, and a perspective on this team and it's relationship to European Pro basketball. Let's suffice it to say...ah...I do not know much about it. Is it related to a sports campus? Is it 3 x 3 or what?

Ha ha ha ha...yeah, right. /s

Seems to me that there are questions about things, sure. But a lot of the comments also seem out of context and/or mere speculation. Dolson probably did tell Woodson that the job is his until he doesn't want it anymore. (And it is understood by the two that that means until the contract runs it's course, or until the AD changes his mind and lets Woodson know otherwise.) That would be SOP. Reminds me of the game telephone. Child is to whisper in the ear a message. Then the 2nd child whispers the message to 3rd. And so on... at the end, it is highly likely that the message is completely different. I am looking forward to enjoying the upcoming season with Coach Woodson. I wish them all well. And yes, it may just head down the drain. And in paraphrasing what a HOF coach once said: If it is inevitable, relax and enjoy it.

My father used to eat pickled pigs' knuckles...I kid you not. I heard that Dawson's Bar used to serve their special fries with that drink. But they only had 10 pota(toes). Did you catch the toe in your mouth? If so, you nailed it!

Big Wave Dave here, reminding you all to catch a wave and you'll be sitting on top of the world! Aloha! Bonsai Pipeline R Us!

Choices...hmmm...Some people pick 10 music albums. I prefer taking someone to make beautiful music together.

Listening to music in the early 60's on a cheap transistor (?) radio I bought from money earned on a paper route...late at night...opened my ears and eyes to a wide, wonderful world beyond the horizon of my neighborhood. 2 AM, top 40 rock...1960...The Drifters...This Magic Moment, Elvis...Are You Lonely, Ray Charles...Georgia On My Mind, Chubby Checkers...Twist. Just to give an idea of what was going on. New music kept popping up. Buddy Holly...Roy Orbison...The Shirelles... Those were ok...but I really liked 1963. 2 AM, top hits...1963...Louie, Louie/The Kingsmen...Surf City/Jan and Dean...Wipeout/The Surfaris... The absolutely best year was 1964! She Loves You, I Get Around, I Want To Hold Your Hand, The House of the Rising Sun, Dancing in the Street, Going Out of my Head, You Really Got Me, All Day and All of the Night, She's Not There, The Times They Are A'Changing...and many more too numerous to list. My personal favorites: Pinball Wizard; Listen to the Music; I'm A Man; Ramble On; I Talk to the Wind; Somebody to Love; Question; Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye; We Gotta Get Outa This Place; The Fish Cheer; For What It's Worth; Blowin' in the Wind; Never My Love; Last Train to Clarksville; How Can You Mend A Broken Heart; Jumpin' Jack Flash; Key to the Highway; Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport/snark; Tiptoe Through the Tulips/s; Hound Dog; Ring of Fire; Wake Up Little Suzie; Shout, Suzie Q, Money, Brain Damage; San Francisco; Purple Haze; Panama Red; Spill the Wine; ...and others...how can it be 10 songs...I have no idea. Favorite Bands: The Beatles; Cream; Traffic; Chicago; CSNY; War; Stones; Jimi Hendrix; Jefferson Airplane; The Who; The Hollies; The Byrds; ... Today my tastes lean to Jazz (World and safe sultry sax) and blues and live music...outside....in a park-like setting. Personal favorite Jazz album - Invitation to Openess - Les McCann. So many of these are personal favorites because of what was going on in my life at the time. One thing, I will never ever consciously listen to John Denver. Sorry, not sorry. Was in the Navy. We were on a submarine in the North Atlantic deployed for half of a year. Senior Chief changed the sound system from 8-track to cassette overnight. None of us knew. At sea we realized he only brought John Denver tapes. We had a mutiny...you have to be kidding me (expletives deleted). I had my personal stereo boom box with over 75 8-tracks in the boat's library. Set them up in the crew's mess for the crew. For 6 months, I was The Man. Fame is fleeting, though. Fame? Fame (fame) makes a man take things over.... Hey, I have chores to do... Summertime Blues. Way down inside...woman, you need....love! Whole Lotta Love All we are saying is: Give Peace a Chance. Me and Bobby McGee... Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town. Just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in...yeah, yeah oh yeah... Midnight Confessions, Temptation Eyes, Deacon Blues, China Grove, I Am Iron Man, Heard it through the Grapevine, Time Has Come Today, What's Going On, Blue Bayou, Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore, Fire on the Mountain, Jackie Blue, Chicken Train, Freebird, One Way Out, Proud Mary, Fresh Air, After the Gold Rush, Magic Carpet Ride, Born to be Wild, Evil Ways... How can one pick a single song from Hendrix, Creedance, Grand Funk, Allman Brothers, Clapton, Beatles, how? Are You Experienced?

Yeah, we could get a Jeremiah April that would sit on the bench and possibly play 17 minutes the entire year. Or a Tom Pritchard that could take a scholarship for four years but be a great teammate. Yeah, having a 3rd stringer that would sit on the bench would give me a great confidence. Especially after having our starter and another backup F/C out for whatever reason. What a difference that would make in the season. But if the 3rd stringer went down...then where would we be? Or a 4th stringer...? /snark

I concur with Demo's list. I saw McGinnis my first year at IU at the old fieldhouse. I wish that Coach Knight could have had him for a year. Wilkerson was a gazelle. A joy to watch. Oladipo was a rocket. I was enthralled by Zeke. Not only gifted physically...but he was superb in being a floor general. Everyone was better on the court because of him. I remember Coach Knight yelling at him pre-freshman year. Then in Zeke's 2nd year, Coach Knight just let Zeke command the team. 1979 McDonald’s All-American 1980 USA Male Basketball Athlete of the Year 1981 NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player 1981 Consensus First Team All-American 1981 NCAA Champion Coach Knight called him Pee Wee. If I had a choice of players year in and year out...I. Thomas would be the point guard.

Last year it was all about not having top-level guards, distributors and shooters and defenders outside. Until we see the new team and how they are utilized during gametime, all this gnashing teeth and whining is inconsequential. But hey, knock yourselves out. Your coach is in AH. By the way, who has $7+ million to spare for '25 - '26 NIL?

The Wizard, John Wooden. Norman Dale. Seriously, yelling is only an issue if the coach is losing.

I had Mclaughlin. Wife had Newgarden. Really enjoyed the last 10 laps and the slingshots around the leaders. Great duel. Smart driving. Will be in Nashville and B'town on Tuesday....

Really laugh about the way you put a stake in the ground. Guess that they will win some and lose some. And... Most likely, the sun will come up tomorrow.

Yes, there is that. Goes without saying. I tried to imply that in my post this morning. There is a catch, however. Show us the player that you have in mind that is an athlete with upside and wants to come to IU. Hatton is a perfect example of that. Now, do it again? Heck, a wing...even. How about a sharpshooter that also is quick on both offense and defense? Looks around...just filling the position is not the way. Waiting to catch lightening in a bottle...not sure about that. Tis a conundrum. I'd wait. But not without starters and backups already signed.

There are a huge number of issues to take into consideration when awarding a 'last' scholarship for basketball. Some are compelling. It is kind of eye opening to attempt to think about it from the perspectives of the coach, staff, compliance, recruit, walk on, fan, donor, media... If the Student Bill of Rights is always to be considered...then a multi-year eligible player is promised a multi-year scholarship, right? Grades and turnover...compliance with the APR... A really good player leaves a program because of a last second coaching change and is interested and a fit... Someone on our team leaves unexpectedly... Just fill the position with a bench sitter or cannon fodder..I actually do not like this. Mark Cuban's long-lost son who kind of plays some basketball....now we're talkin'!

8.5 wins this year! For sure! Trust me. And do not forget to the select bowl game: Refrigerator Bowl (Evansville IN); Glass Bowl (Toledo OH); Duluth Trading Cure Bowl (Frostbite Falls MN); Galleryfurniture.com Bowl, (Rockytop TN or Cumberland Gap take your pick); MagicJack Bowl, (St. Petersburg Fl I kid you not); Beef O'Brady Bowl, (the powers that be in St. Petersburg once again search for a sponsor and there are others there too numerous to count); The Boca Raton Wet The Beak Ponzi Scheme Awareness Bowl Presented by Pardon My Take Presented by Barstool Sports...Trust me!

Yeah, you are probably right. I remember about forever ago, wife and I went to Bowling Green State (Ohio) and watched a 'good' IU football team lose to that MAC team. The defense did not pursue. And the line did the matador fast step. The highlights were the BGSU falcon cheer and the vuvuzuelas. Our best defensive linebacker was injured IIRC. Waaaaay back, I remember Lee Corso. A tip of the ole toupee to him. He most definitely could ****** defeat from the jaws of victory. But he would put a positive spin on it. Whataguy! However, preseason is about pumping sunshine, right? If not then...then when?

8.5 wins and POTFB. FIU - W WIU - W UCLA - L Charlotte - W Maryland - W Northwestern - W Nebraska - L Washington - L MSU - W Michigan - W OSU - L IU will be ahead at the half. So this counts as 0.5; it's important. Sometimes one must just declare victory. Purdue - W I will be at the OSU game. That place is weird. It's like a cult. Kind if a melding of Stepford Wives and Tremors. I go just to see if I can get motivated enough to projectile vomit on over 100 from the nosebleed seats. Reminds me of Wisconsin's Camp Randall football stadium...except without the cheese curds and that purple elixir we called the George Foreman Punch. Up there they tear out the benches and throw them over the back of the stadium. Keggers on rooftops of homes near the stadium. Nice. Fans exhibiting CTE. It's like over half of the OSU fans are bottle-bleach blonde U. S. Congress escapees from the beltway Cuckoo's Nest. Can't wait. Post regular season, IU gets an invite to the Roman Coliseum. Turns it down for a bigger venue...Rungrado 1st of May Stadium: Largest Football Stadium in the World. Rungrado 1st of May Stadium, located in Pyongyang, North Korea, is the largest stadium in the world with a staggering capacity of 114,000. Not really sure about the venue...post season. Might be an issue about cable rights and referees.

Gee. Thought Woodson's coaching record in the Big Ten was 44 - 33. His teams were in the NCAAT two years out of three. Last year was a bust...and that is on him for sure. That seems like maybe bottom of the top half over the last 3 years at worst. Am I a Coach Woodson supporter? I guess...for me the jury is still out. But he is not yet proven to be a good coach. Just slightly above average in the Big Ten. That is not good enough. But, I wouldn't fire him unless I had a blue-chip coach waiting. And there are other things that I don't understand why he does them. But he kept the players he wanted from last year and did really well in the portal.

I really want IU basketball to compete successfully at the highest levels. It would be great entertainment. I appreciate the sharing of information and opinions on this and other sites. I learn a lot from people. This thread has been a bummer, though. I do not mind people criticizing Coach Woodson's recruiting, on-court decisions, his focus, other related performances and communications. It does bother me when people repeat themselves ad nauseum. So I skip those postings, mostly. But what I do not appreciate is the trend towards personal attacks. The discontent pre-season in what just might be a great year is driving me to drinking. Believe it or not. Well, this and the oligarchy that the USA has become, and politics, and lack of empathy, and that damn rabbit that ate my just planted veggies, and... Let's all be civil. Otherwise, I will personally stalk you and paint Purdoo Lover on your garage door. Then two weeks later I will paint UK Lover on your house. Be forewarned. By the way, what is the best brewery near Nashville IN? And how was the Bill Monroe Bluegrass Festival this year?