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IU VS. PURDUE OFFICIAL GAME THREAD (7 PM ET ESPN2)
Stuhoo replied to FortWayneHoosier's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
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Tom Crean as the next GM of the Knicks?
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True, but only if y'all have unrealistic expectations as to who options 1-5 are. If any of your options 1-5 are: Self, Stevens, Wright, Donovan, and Bennett? Start looking at your 6-8th option as the most likely choice. If your 1-5 options are Marshall, Archie, Hoiberg, Mack, and Jacobsen? You are much more likely to be pleased that one of your primary choices gets the nod. Moral of the story: Some of the coaches who are perceived as "primary options" have absolutely, positively no desire to leave where they are; not for IU or anywhere else. And no, an open checkbook will not change that.
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Great point that no one has touched on yet. Within the next five years, UNC, Syracuse, Duke, and maybe MSU will be looking for marquee replacements. None of them are likely to be looking after this season, which means we could be the primary blue blood destination for an A level up and coming coach who is thinking about a move.
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I get it, but the chances of full comfort with the new hire are pretty low. Sooo...given that IU will do their due diligence on the marquee hires and that they are all quite unlikely, the choice then becomes a "lower comfort level" hire, or CTC indefinitely. Then which do y'all prefer?
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If the Bulls want to sever ties with Hoiberg, and IU wants to sever ties with CTC, and IU wants Hoiberg... The finances will absolutely be worked out. For that matter, pretty much all big name coaches have a substantial buyout on paper. If a coach truly doesn't want to be where he is, the buyout is invariably worked out.
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I don't rule Bennett out; I think he's excellent. I just don't see it.
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Using IU to leverage a big $$$ extension from UVA? That I could see.
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I don't see Bennett leaving a top 15 ACC program.
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I still think CTC is a good man, but real results after awhile is also a requirement. Ive reached the point where I don't see real results coming. I will not defend every potential replacement hire: but I'm okay with Archie, Hoiberg, and maybe Mack. I'm also not the least bit interested in posts that suggest guys that will not be interested in IUBB such as Wright, Self, Bennett, Alford, Sean Miller, etc.
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Only been at UF for 1+ years. I can't imagine he'd be ready to change addresses again so soon. Great young coach though.
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Hoiberg would be an extremely wise, completely excellent hire for any high major college program. Other than Stevens and Donovan, I can't imagine who would be a better combination of youth, charisma, player appreciation, detail and hard work , and big program experience and results. AND... with Hoiberg I betcha the current players and recruits would overwhelmingly want to stay at IU.
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Hey...I've seen plenty of posters in the internet state that Glass will never fire CTC after this year. Someone's wrong, and milehi is pretty dialed in!
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Most venerable poster Milehiiu on the 247 board is very far from a Crean hater. He just posted that there is movement toward an amicable split. FWIW
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I think that whatever UK is paying their players this year, it isn't enough. During last night's seven point win at corRUPPt Arena against 1-9 in conference LSU, this was a shining example of their one and done defense...Point shaving anyone?!?
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And here's the most thorough read on Hoiberg's ISU departure: http://www.amestrib.com/sports/men-s-basketball-inside-times-troubled-relationship-between-hoiberg-s-cyclones-and-isu
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Yes!!! Very accomplished coaches that could do amazing things at IUBB like Hoiberg, Archie, Mack, and Marshall.
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Good for Dakich for calling it exactly what it was!
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It was Hoiberg's pinnacle when he inherited a terrible team at IOWA STATE, stayed a total of five years, and never had a team with star quality future-NBA level talent.
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Well then, under that standard we will have a situation in which: We reach out to Stevens and Donovan annually, They say no annually, and We have Tom Crean as IU's basketball coach indefinitely.
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Those two yellow bolded years from the chart are conference tournament championship years. In my opinion, you need to step back at little bit with candidate performance expectations. Coaches at major conference champion caliber teams that are regularly getting very far in the NCAAs are not looking to move! That's not a knock on IUBB; the Jay Wrights and Bill Selfs of the world are not looking to move anywhere.
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Excellent job at Iowa State; getting to the Sweet Sixteen and winning 23+ games per season there is no small task, and is an upgrade from CTC's results. Iowa State Cyclones (Big 12 Conference) (2010–2015) 2010–11 Iowa State 16–16, 3–13 in conference 2011–12 Iowa State 23–11, 12–6 in conference, NCAA Round of 32 2012–13 Iowa State 23–12, 11–7 in conference, NCAA Round of 32 2013–14 Iowa State 28–8 11–7 in conference, NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2014–15 Iowa State 25–9, 12–6 in conference, NCAA Round of 64 Total at Iowa State:115–56 (.673) 49–39 in conference (.557) Pros: Great personality/face of a program. VERY likeable; Indiana high school coaches will be immediately enamored. Young, but not too young; still evolving and improving as a coach. Pro and major conference college head coaching experience. Very detail oriented. Fun, pro-style offensive system that high-end recruits will flock to. Fantastic, yet unblemished recruiter. And, unlike Self, Stevens, Donovan, Sean Miller, and others mentioned...will be available. Cons: Never had a team that has dominated defensively. Never been a big NCAA tournament success. Chart of Iowa State since 2000, with Hoiberg's 2010-2015 period far and away the most productive: Season Records Season Overall Conference 2001 25–6 13–3 2002 12–19 4–12 2003 17–14 5–11 2004 20–13 7–9 2005 19–12 9–7 2006 16–14 6–10 2007 15–16 6–10 2008 14–18 4–12 2009 15–17 4–12 2010 15–17 4–12 2011 16–16 3–13 2012 23–11 12–6 2013 23–12 11–7 2014 28–8 11–7 2015 25–9 12–6 2016 23–12 10–8 2017 14–8 6-4
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Hoiberg, Marshall, Archie. I'm guessing that would be the most likely list (and in what order I do not know), if we truly are in search mode after this season.
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Prediction League (Game 26 - Michigan 2/12/17)
Stuhoo replied to Str8Hoosiers's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
We fight valiantly against a good Purdoodoo team, and then have a major letdown against Michigan.
