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Winning on the road at half. Wide view I will take it. I do think defensively we have to do a much better job. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Yes blanket statements always make it easier to pick and choose when it is relevant. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Again, that’s the purpose of these places in the summer 🤷🏿‍♂️ Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I think that’s the 2nd time I saw someone say something about “making too much sense” on these boards about similar things others felt people shouldn’t discuss. How about self awareness of knowing where you are and what you are clicking into? This is the place for these exact discussions! Maybe that would just make too much sense? [emoji1][emoji106] Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Dude this is kind of the purpose of these boards and have been since day 1. As much as I think it’s crazy to say Justin needs to be on the outside (and in the same thread say he is a slasher?), this is the place for that. So I politely disagree we should wait to discuss how WE would utilize Justin Smith. Plus we will learn very little next Tuesday on how CAM will use him. He could come out next week and shoot 5 3’s only to not shoot any in the month of November. Or vice versa. It’s a scrimmage. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

That’s where I’ll disagree. The things you think will improve his NBA stock and help IU I don’t. His ability to throw up 3s will not happen here. He is shooting 1 per game. Like you said 4 more per game makes that big of a difference. No NBA scout is going to care he made 4 more shots throughout a season. If you watched his form during warmups or during a game it does not feel normal for him at all. I will also disagree with you on your assertion to HF that shooting isn’t a “natural” thing. I just don’t know how to explain that differently but it just is once you get your mechanics set. If you are a Junior in college having that many issues getting that feel you will have issues going forward due to habits. The dude was airballing free throws. Yet we expect him to improve in a year where the line gets back? I have been called a sunshine pumper for years. But dude I can’t even find a spin on this to have any semblance of positivity or any reason to think him hitting 4 more 3’s in a season would remotely help him or this team. Edit: I did not cherry pick my Vic comparison. It wasn’t even my comparison. That was Joes comparison. Joe discussed his sophomore to junior jump. I am not bringing freshman numbers into an argument when they weren’t the one discussed. Why would I? Justin clearly regressed as a sophomore. Archie has never been a coach to have players improve their shooting. Why should I expect it to be that way in this scenario? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Agreed and it’s not Archie’s job to fit a square peg into a round hole. It’s his job to win. I don’t doubt Justin is trying to improve his 3 this summer. I also won’t be surprised when his minutes are dramatically lowered when he still struggles to do the things we need to win. He is an upperclassmen. We need him to be a leader for this program. Not himself. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

We are talking about a 50% free throw shooter. How many free throw shooters improved their 3 pt shooting 13% from the year before? Come on man. Vic was a 75% free throw shooter going from 20-44%. There is a reason that was possible. Free throw shooting is the easiest form of mechanics and repeatability. If he can’t do that? I don’t expect him to improve from three 13% or there to be any chance. Let alone in a season where the 3 is more difficult from one year to the next. Why are some folks assuming he can improve? Vic had many telling signs he could improve. Justin has 0 of those. He has not improved at any level of his shooting over his first two years. Sorry that isn’t chipper enough for some. He could still play a huge role on a good team. I personally would prefer seeing his free throw numbers improve along with his motor. That would do more for this team than moving his percentage from 22-34% (won’t happen). But I am sure with him averaging taking .9 3 per game that additional .1 made per game is the difference between making the tournament or not. So every 10 games that gets us 3 points back. Every game he is leaving a point at the line on average. Sometimes the simplest things will make you a better squad. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Completely agree and feel that is our best shot to a successful season. Ready to get this season started. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

This has been your stance. This isn’t the first time you have said this. Joe, agree to disagree on many things. There is no point in rehashing this discussion. I have no ambitions of arguing any points you are trying to make. I can’t keep up with your craziness unless I am on acid. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Again, using the most extreme example to prove a point. We are not going to play at a D’Antoni level in college. So no, we are not game planning at IU a 3 is our best shot available every time down the floor. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Ole Joe and his extremes. So fun to talk to. If he isn’t shooting a 3 every shot that means you want him to be Holt or McSwain. Just so you know he also has never been a player with any ball handling or shooting ability. So he is closer to those two players than what you want him to be. Have a great night Joe. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Thanks for educating me Joe. Let me know which game plan you were a part of that said a 3 is always the best shot available. I want to check that box score. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

No thanks Joe. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Yep this has been my argument as well. I know what analytics say, but I am having my team take the best available shot 100/100 times. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Thank you for choosing IU Anthony. Please stay off of these type of sites. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Nah I think you are twisting what people are saying. They wouldn’t want him to choose the next AD if it were to happen. Kind of like you guys don’t want Fred Glass selecting another coach if he has to fire another coach. Wee bit different than your interpretation. Edit: There are many reasons beyond Glass people want McRobbie gone. Oversimplification of this does nothing really. If you want an Athletic Department with more of a focus on winning you would want change higher up too. It has more to do with an attitude or approach to everything. We don’t McRobbie explicitly gone due to our programs not winning like they should. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

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I feel like Gradman emails himself talking points every morning. He forgot how to use Google when he couldn’t handle the positivity on the internet. The world is just too positive for Gradman. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

So Google said we are only better than Rutgers and Maryland? Interesting. Edit: Did you know Northwestern built their $270 million complex for the football players and their 14,000 sq foot gym has to be shared with athletes in lacrosse, field hockey, cross-country, soccer and swimming and diving? Wonder how you would feel about that here. I can’t imagine you would be anything but complimentary like you are for other programs. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

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How so? When you toured all other B1G football complexes what did they impress you with more than what Indiana has? I mean, I don’t believe you would ever throw blanket statements out there without having a clue. I would have expected there to be a reason you would say this other than your hatred of Fred. So what did you like better than other football player lounges since you make it seem it’s not even close? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

https://iuhoosiers.com/news/2019/10/11/indiana-university-dedicates-terry-tallen-indiana-football-complex.aspx Obviously already in it but they dedicated it on Friday. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

We definitely need him to be to be successful. I think we definitely all want to be. I can’t disagree on the ball watching but last years team as a whole was bad at that. They expected Juwan or Romeo to create on every play. I do like hearing we are moving towards more of a motion style offense due to this. Not for sentimental purposes but because our last couple of teams needed continual structure offensively. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app