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BottomLine

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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Harrison Niego continues to add depth to IU's bench   
    Don't go overboard on Niegro.  Everybody loves the underdog but he is a role player and he is doing fine filling his role.  At this point in his career he has been pushed into service because of our lack of depth at guard because of Blackmon's injury. He  isn't ready to be pushed much farther or his shortcomings will become more apparent.  As to the future, we will see what happens.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Updated standings and schedule   
    Big Ten Standings and Schedule (2/14/16)
    Top 7 Rec - Bottom 7 Rec - BIG Rec - Overall Rec- Games left with top 7
    Iowa                      5-2          6-0          11-2       20-5       Wisc (H), IU (H), Mich (A)
    Indiana                 3-2          7-1          10-3       20-6       PU (H), Iowa (A), Mary (H)
    Maryland             3-3          7-0          10-3       22-4       Mich (H), PU (A), IU (A)
    Michigan              2-4          7-0          9-4          19-7       Mary (A), Wisc (A), Iowa (H)
    Wisconsin            3-3          5-1          8-4          16-9       MSU (A), Iowa (A), Mich (H), PU (A)
    Purdue                 3-4          5-1          8-5          20-6       IU (A), Mary ((H), Wisc (H)
    Mich St                 3-4          5-1          8-5          21-5       Wisc (H)
    Ohio State           0-5          8-0          8-5          16-10     Mich (H), MSU (H), Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Nebraska            1-6          5-1          6-7          14-12     Wisc (A), IU (A), PU (H)
    Northwestern      1-5          4-3          5-8          17-9       PU (A), Mich (A)
    Illinois                  1-5          2-4          3-9          11-14     Wisc (A), IU (H), Mary (A)
    Penn St              1-7          2-2          3-9          12-13     Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Rutgers              0-7          0-5          0-12       6-19       MSU (H)              
    Minnesota          0-7          0-6          0-13       6-19       Mary (H), Wisc (H)
     
    With only 5 or 6 games remaining until the end of the Big Ten regular season some things are coming into sharper focus.  Northwestern, Illinois, Penn State, Rutgers and Minnesota have been mathematically eliminated from winning the conference.  The same is probably true of Nebraska but at this point I don't want to figure out the possible permutations.  At this point the record of the bottom 7 is 4-38 against the top 7 for a 9.5% win percentage.  I can never remember the bottom of the conference being this bad.
     
    Iowa, with a one game lead, controls their own fate but they better not look beyond Wisconsin, the hottest team in the league.  A loss to IU could set up the possibility of a three way tie but that Wisconsin game looms as a stumbling block, especially after squeaking against Minnesota.
     
    Maryland needs help to win outright or tie.
     
    If Indiana sweeps Indiana wins outright.  An IU loss to Maryland in the final game sets up the possibility of a Maryland - Iowa tie and the Hoosier finishing third.  Assuming that all three teams win their other games.  There is still a lot of basketball to be played.
     
    We are also looking at seeding for the Big Ten Tourney.  Seeds 1-4 get a double bye.  Seeds 5-10 get a one game bye.  Seeds 11-14 get no bye and must play five games to win the tourney.
     
    Significantly 1-4-5-8-9-12-13 are in the top bracket.  2-3-6-7-10-11-14 are in the lower bracket.  Where Wisconsin and Michigan State end up could have a significant impact on the tourney results.  Personally, I'd rather not play either again.
     
    At this point all IU can do is take them one at a time and get back to winning.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from HoosierAloha in Analysis: I choose not to pile on Troy Williams   
    Loved Troy when he was a freshman.  Thought he was okay last year.  This year every time he gets the ball on top I want to throw something at the TV.  His bull rushes and wild out of control shots kill the offense.  Everyone stands around when Troy gets the ball out front because the offense comes to a standstill.  Then the turnovers are maddening.  Crean benched him as a starter in Maui and his mother had a meltdown.  That, I believe, tells you something.  Crean has been sitting him down more and more for poor play and Troy still doesn't get it.  I don't think he ever will.  He is a great athlete but a pretty sorry basketball player.  So the choice is put up with what we have or start Anunoby and run the risk that Troy blows up the team with a sour attitude.  If it were my team I'd take the risk.  The goal is to put a better team on the floor.  I'd put Troy right next to me on the bench and tell him he is now the sixth man.  His job is to watch the action and figure what he can do to help because he is always going to be the first sub and he needs to bring high energy when he sets foot on that floor.  Above all he must play team ball, not hero ball.  From there his playing time would depend on his effectiveness.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from maxwell in Substitutions   
    Niegro was on the floor for only one reason last night.  With Blackmon gone we are short guards and Yogi was gassed.  He was in the game to buy time for Yogi to get a breather.  Would he continue to get stops?  Would he score more baskets?  Don't know.  If Yogi is ready to go back in he goes back in.  Who would you rather have on the floor - a walk-on freshman or a senior MVP candidate?
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    BottomLine got a reaction from raorIU in Substitutions   
    I think Tom Crean in the past has subbed players a lot because he wants to manage their minutes and keep fresh players on the floor.  It is part of the strategy of bringing fatigue to the game on the part of our opponent.  I've always thought in the past that he had a schedule beforehand and tried to stick to that.  Many of his "bad" subs in the past were because the sub was waiting at the table to come in, when there was a break in the action, and a player being subbed for was just getting hot after his replacement had reported in.  As the action goes up and down on the court you can see the new subs sitting on the floor waiting a break in the action.  Haven't noticed that as much this year.  I have seen Crean call players back to the bench from the scorer's table.  I think he has cut down of mass substitutions.  I think that some players, Troy Williams in particular, are on a much shorter leash.  The same was true of Blackmon before his injury.  Has Crean changed?  Probably a bit but it could also be a factor of early foul trouble, particularly to Hartman and Bryant, that takes away much of his flexibility.  We are deep this year but not as deep as Crean would like.  We are seeing more of a 9 man rotation this year instead of the 14 we have seen in the past.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from maxwell in Substitutions   
    Niegro was on the floor for only one reason last night.  With Blackmon gone we are short guards and Yogi was gassed.  He was in the game to buy time for Yogi to get a breather.  Would he continue to get stops?  Would he score more baskets?  Don't know.  If Yogi is ready to go back in he goes back in.  Who would you rather have on the floor - a walk-on freshman or a senior MVP candidate?
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    BottomLine got a reaction from raorIU in Substitutions   
    I think Tom Crean in the past has subbed players a lot because he wants to manage their minutes and keep fresh players on the floor.  It is part of the strategy of bringing fatigue to the game on the part of our opponent.  I've always thought in the past that he had a schedule beforehand and tried to stick to that.  Many of his "bad" subs in the past were because the sub was waiting at the table to come in, when there was a break in the action, and a player being subbed for was just getting hot after his replacement had reported in.  As the action goes up and down on the court you can see the new subs sitting on the floor waiting a break in the action.  Haven't noticed that as much this year.  I have seen Crean call players back to the bench from the scorer's table.  I think he has cut down of mass substitutions.  I think that some players, Troy Williams in particular, are on a much shorter leash.  The same was true of Blackmon before his injury.  Has Crean changed?  Probably a bit but it could also be a factor of early foul trouble, particularly to Hartman and Bryant, that takes away much of his flexibility.  We are deep this year but not as deep as Crean would like.  We are seeing more of a 9 man rotation this year instead of the 14 we have seen in the past.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from raorIU in Substitutions   
    I think Tom Crean in the past has subbed players a lot because he wants to manage their minutes and keep fresh players on the floor.  It is part of the strategy of bringing fatigue to the game on the part of our opponent.  I've always thought in the past that he had a schedule beforehand and tried to stick to that.  Many of his "bad" subs in the past were because the sub was waiting at the table to come in, when there was a break in the action, and a player being subbed for was just getting hot after his replacement had reported in.  As the action goes up and down on the court you can see the new subs sitting on the floor waiting a break in the action.  Haven't noticed that as much this year.  I have seen Crean call players back to the bench from the scorer's table.  I think he has cut down of mass substitutions.  I think that some players, Troy Williams in particular, are on a much shorter leash.  The same was true of Blackmon before his injury.  Has Crean changed?  Probably a bit but it could also be a factor of early foul trouble, particularly to Hartman and Bryant, that takes away much of his flexibility.  We are deep this year but not as deep as Crean would like.  We are seeing more of a 9 man rotation this year instead of the 14 we have seen in the past.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from raorIU in Substitutions   
    I think Tom Crean in the past has subbed players a lot because he wants to manage their minutes and keep fresh players on the floor.  It is part of the strategy of bringing fatigue to the game on the part of our opponent.  I've always thought in the past that he had a schedule beforehand and tried to stick to that.  Many of his "bad" subs in the past were because the sub was waiting at the table to come in, when there was a break in the action, and a player being subbed for was just getting hot after his replacement had reported in.  As the action goes up and down on the court you can see the new subs sitting on the floor waiting a break in the action.  Haven't noticed that as much this year.  I have seen Crean call players back to the bench from the scorer's table.  I think he has cut down of mass substitutions.  I think that some players, Troy Williams in particular, are on a much shorter leash.  The same was true of Blackmon before his injury.  Has Crean changed?  Probably a bit but it could also be a factor of early foul trouble, particularly to Hartman and Bryant, that takes away much of his flexibility.  We are deep this year but not as deep as Crean would like.  We are seeing more of a 9 man rotation this year instead of the 14 we have seen in the past.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from IUsafety in For schedule watchers: Here you go!   
    Big Ten Standings and Schedule (2/8/16)
    Top 7 Rec - Bottom 7 Rec - BIG Rec - Overall Rec- Games left with top 7
    Iowa                      5-1          5-0          10-1       19-4       IU (A), Wisc (H), IU (H), Mich (A)
    Maryland             3-2          7-0          10-2       21-3       Wisc (H), Mich (H), PU (A), IU (A)
    Indiana                 2-1          7-1          9-2          19-5       Iowa (H), MSU (A), PU (H), Iowa (A), Mary (H)
    Mich St                 2-3          5-1          7-4          20-4       PU (A), IU (H), Wisc (H)
    Purdue                 2-3          5-1          7-4          19-5       MSU (H), Mich (A), IU (A), Mary ((H), Wisc (H)
    Michigan             1-4          6-0          7-4          17-7       PU (H), Mary (A), Wisc (A), Iowa (H)
    Wisconsin           2-3          4-1          6-4          14-9       Mary (A), MSU (A), Iowa (A), Mich (H), PU (A)
    Ohio State          0-5          6-0          6-5          14-10     Mich (H), MSU (H), Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Nebraska             1-5          4-1          5-6          13-11     Wisc (A), IU (A), PU (H)
    Northwestern      1-5          3-2          4-7          16-8       PU (A), Mich (A)
    Penn St              1-7          2-1          3-8          12-12     Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Illinois                  1-5          2-3          3-8          11-13     Wisc (A), IU (H), Mary (A)
    Minnesota          0-5          0-6          0-11       6-17       Mich (H), Iowa (A), Mary (H), Wisc (H)
    Rutgers              0-7          0-4          0-11       6-18       MSU (H)   
     
    With IU's big game coming up with Iowa this week, it is time to take a look at the remaining schedule and try to guess how this season is going to work out.   For the championship only two teams hold their fate in their own hands.  That would be Iowa and IU.  IU is a game down in the loss column but has two games remaining with Iowa.  IU is tied with Maryland in the loss column but has a single game scheduled.  Maryland and the other contenders can not win on their own - they need help.  Being one game down in the loss column, Maryland needs someone to beat Iowa.  Maryland can't do it because they have no more meetings.  If Iowa wins out they win the conference.  If IU wins out we win the conference.
     
    Wisconsin, with only a 5 point road loss at Northwestern keeping them out of sole position of fourth place, is probably set up to be the biggest spoiler.  They have single games remaining with all of the top group, except IU.
     
    If we lose to Iowa this week, the race becomes a two horse race between Iowa and Maryland and a struggle to avoid the unexpected upset.
     
    Anyway, have some fun looking at the possibilities
     
    Go Hoosiers!
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    BottomLine got a reaction from IUsafety in For schedule watchers: Here you go!   
    Big Ten Standings and Schedule (2/8/16)
    Top 7 Rec - Bottom 7 Rec - BIG Rec - Overall Rec- Games left with top 7
    Iowa                      5-1          5-0          10-1       19-4       IU (A), Wisc (H), IU (H), Mich (A)
    Maryland             3-2          7-0          10-2       21-3       Wisc (H), Mich (H), PU (A), IU (A)
    Indiana                 2-1          7-1          9-2          19-5       Iowa (H), MSU (A), PU (H), Iowa (A), Mary (H)
    Mich St                 2-3          5-1          7-4          20-4       PU (A), IU (H), Wisc (H)
    Purdue                 2-3          5-1          7-4          19-5       MSU (H), Mich (A), IU (A), Mary ((H), Wisc (H)
    Michigan             1-4          6-0          7-4          17-7       PU (H), Mary (A), Wisc (A), Iowa (H)
    Wisconsin           2-3          4-1          6-4          14-9       Mary (A), MSU (A), Iowa (A), Mich (H), PU (A)
    Ohio State          0-5          6-0          6-5          14-10     Mich (H), MSU (H), Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Nebraska             1-5          4-1          5-6          13-11     Wisc (A), IU (A), PU (H)
    Northwestern      1-5          3-2          4-7          16-8       PU (A), Mich (A)
    Penn St              1-7          2-1          3-8          12-12     Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Illinois                  1-5          2-3          3-8          11-13     Wisc (A), IU (H), Mary (A)
    Minnesota          0-5          0-6          0-11       6-17       Mich (H), Iowa (A), Mary (H), Wisc (H)
    Rutgers              0-7          0-4          0-11       6-18       MSU (H)   
     
    With IU's big game coming up with Iowa this week, it is time to take a look at the remaining schedule and try to guess how this season is going to work out.   For the championship only two teams hold their fate in their own hands.  That would be Iowa and IU.  IU is a game down in the loss column but has two games remaining with Iowa.  IU is tied with Maryland in the loss column but has a single game scheduled.  Maryland and the other contenders can not win on their own - they need help.  Being one game down in the loss column, Maryland needs someone to beat Iowa.  Maryland can't do it because they have no more meetings.  If Iowa wins out they win the conference.  If IU wins out we win the conference.
     
    Wisconsin, with only a 5 point road loss at Northwestern keeping them out of sole position of fourth place, is probably set up to be the biggest spoiler.  They have single games remaining with all of the top group, except IU.
     
    If we lose to Iowa this week, the race becomes a two horse race between Iowa and Maryland and a struggle to avoid the unexpected upset.
     
    Anyway, have some fun looking at the possibilities
     
    Go Hoosiers!
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    BottomLine got a reaction from IUsafety in For schedule watchers: Here you go!   
    Big Ten Standings and Schedule (2/8/16)
    Top 7 Rec - Bottom 7 Rec - BIG Rec - Overall Rec- Games left with top 7
    Iowa                      5-1          5-0          10-1       19-4       IU (A), Wisc (H), IU (H), Mich (A)
    Maryland             3-2          7-0          10-2       21-3       Wisc (H), Mich (H), PU (A), IU (A)
    Indiana                 2-1          7-1          9-2          19-5       Iowa (H), MSU (A), PU (H), Iowa (A), Mary (H)
    Mich St                 2-3          5-1          7-4          20-4       PU (A), IU (H), Wisc (H)
    Purdue                 2-3          5-1          7-4          19-5       MSU (H), Mich (A), IU (A), Mary ((H), Wisc (H)
    Michigan             1-4          6-0          7-4          17-7       PU (H), Mary (A), Wisc (A), Iowa (H)
    Wisconsin           2-3          4-1          6-4          14-9       Mary (A), MSU (A), Iowa (A), Mich (H), PU (A)
    Ohio State          0-5          6-0          6-5          14-10     Mich (H), MSU (H), Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Nebraska             1-5          4-1          5-6          13-11     Wisc (A), IU (A), PU (H)
    Northwestern      1-5          3-2          4-7          16-8       PU (A), Mich (A)
    Penn St              1-7          2-1          3-8          12-12     Iowa (H), MSU (A)
    Illinois                  1-5          2-3          3-8          11-13     Wisc (A), IU (H), Mary (A)
    Minnesota          0-5          0-6          0-11       6-17       Mich (H), Iowa (A), Mary (H), Wisc (H)
    Rutgers              0-7          0-4          0-11       6-18       MSU (H)   
     
    With IU's big game coming up with Iowa this week, it is time to take a look at the remaining schedule and try to guess how this season is going to work out.   For the championship only two teams hold their fate in their own hands.  That would be Iowa and IU.  IU is a game down in the loss column but has two games remaining with Iowa.  IU is tied with Maryland in the loss column but has a single game scheduled.  Maryland and the other contenders can not win on their own - they need help.  Being one game down in the loss column, Maryland needs someone to beat Iowa.  Maryland can't do it because they have no more meetings.  If Iowa wins out they win the conference.  If IU wins out we win the conference.
     
    Wisconsin, with only a 5 point road loss at Northwestern keeping them out of sole position of fourth place, is probably set up to be the biggest spoiler.  They have single games remaining with all of the top group, except IU.
     
    If we lose to Iowa this week, the race becomes a two horse race between Iowa and Maryland and a struggle to avoid the unexpected upset.
     
    Anyway, have some fun looking at the possibilities
     
    Go Hoosiers!
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    BottomLine got a reaction from WayneFleekHoosier in Interesting statistics top v. bottom   
    By this time most fans have determined that the top six teams in the conference are Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Purdue and Michigan State.  I wondered how the conference is doing against those six teams and the results were really interesting.  Only one team, Iowa, has a winning record against the top six and only one team, Wisconsin, has more than one win (2).  The record for the top six against the bottom eight is 35-4.  The record of the bottom eight against the top six is thus 4-35.  Looks like everyone is beating up on the bottom of the conference.  I can't remember the conference ever being so divided between the haves and have nots.  The records against the top six and against the bottom eight are as follows:
     
    Iowa (5-1, 3-0)
    Indiana (0-0, 8-1)
    Wisconsin (2-3, 3-1)
    Maryland (1-2, 7-0)
    Michigan (1-2, 6-0)
    Purdue (1-2, 6-1)
    Michigan State (1-2, 5-2)
    Illinois (1-3, 1-4)
    Nebraska (1-4, 3-1)
    Ohio State (0-4, 6-0)
    Northwestern (0-5, 3-2)
    Penn State (0-5, 2-2)
    Minnesota (0-5, 0-5)
    Rutgers (0-6, 0-3)
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    BottomLine got a reaction from ALASKA HOOSIER in Interesting statistics top v. bottom   
    Sorry, I didn't explain myself well.  Iowa has only three games left against the top six.  They have two road games at IU and Michigan and a home game against IU.  Other than that they are playing the bottom feeders.  They now get a schedule similar to IU's first half and we get a schedule similar to Iowa's first half.  If Iowa wins the conference they won it primarily in the first nine games and now all they need to do is avoid upsets.  The road gets much tougher ahead for the Hoosiers.  Back in was probable a poor choice of words but I think you can see what I'm saying.  Our future is in our own hands but we need to prove that we can beat the top teams if we hope to keep pace.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from ALASKA HOOSIER in Interesting statistics top v. bottom   
    Sorry, I didn't explain myself well.  Iowa has only three games left against the top six.  They have two road games at IU and Michigan and a home game against IU.  Other than that they are playing the bottom feeders.  They now get a schedule similar to IU's first half and we get a schedule similar to Iowa's first half.  If Iowa wins the conference they won it primarily in the first nine games and now all they need to do is avoid upsets.  The road gets much tougher ahead for the Hoosiers.  Back in was probable a poor choice of words but I think you can see what I'm saying.  Our future is in our own hands but we need to prove that we can beat the top teams if we hope to keep pace.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from ALASKA HOOSIER in Interesting statistics top v. bottom   
    Sorry, I didn't explain myself well.  Iowa has only three games left against the top six.  They have two road games at IU and Michigan and a home game against IU.  Other than that they are playing the bottom feeders.  They now get a schedule similar to IU's first half and we get a schedule similar to Iowa's first half.  If Iowa wins the conference they won it primarily in the first nine games and now all they need to do is avoid upsets.  The road gets much tougher ahead for the Hoosiers.  Back in was probable a poor choice of words but I think you can see what I'm saying.  Our future is in our own hands but we need to prove that we can beat the top teams if we hope to keep pace.
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    BottomLine got a reaction from WayneFleekHoosier in Interesting statistics top v. bottom   
    By this time most fans have determined that the top six teams in the conference are Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Purdue and Michigan State.  I wondered how the conference is doing against those six teams and the results were really interesting.  Only one team, Iowa, has a winning record against the top six and only one team, Wisconsin, has more than one win (2).  The record for the top six against the bottom eight is 35-4.  The record of the bottom eight against the top six is thus 4-35.  Looks like everyone is beating up on the bottom of the conference.  I can't remember the conference ever being so divided between the haves and have nots.  The records against the top six and against the bottom eight are as follows:
     
    Iowa (5-1, 3-0)
    Indiana (0-0, 8-1)
    Wisconsin (2-3, 3-1)
    Maryland (1-2, 7-0)
    Michigan (1-2, 6-0)
    Purdue (1-2, 6-1)
    Michigan State (1-2, 5-2)
    Illinois (1-3, 1-4)
    Nebraska (1-4, 3-1)
    Ohio State (0-4, 6-0)
    Northwestern (0-5, 3-2)
    Penn State (0-5, 2-2)
    Minnesota (0-5, 0-5)
    Rutgers (0-6, 0-3)
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    BottomLine got a reaction from WayneFleekHoosier in This Started It All for Me   
    Born and raised in southern Indiana.  Never missed an IU game on the tube from the late 50's on.  Graduated from IU in '69 and moved to Illinois to teach.  Retired in 2013.  Still bleed cream and crimson.  Youngest daughter was class of 2000.
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    Born and raised in southern Indiana.  Never missed an IU game on the tube from the late 50's on.  Graduated from IU in '69 and moved to Illinois to teach.  Retired in 2013.  Still bleed cream and crimson.  Youngest daughter was class of 2000.
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    Born and raised in southern Indiana.  Never missed an IU game on the tube from the late 50's on.  Graduated from IU in '69 and moved to Illinois to teach.  Retired in 2013.  Still bleed cream and crimson.  Youngest daughter was class of 2000.
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    Born and raised in southern Indiana.  Never missed an IU game on the tube from the late 50's on.  Graduated from IU in '69 and moved to Illinois to teach.  Retired in 2013.  Still bleed cream and crimson.  Youngest daughter was class of 2000.
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    Born and raised in southern Indiana.  Never missed an IU game on the tube from the late 50's on.  Graduated from IU in '69 and moved to Illinois to teach.  Retired in 2013.  Still bleed cream and crimson.  Youngest daughter was class of 2000.
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