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Not sure on Woody’s player dev — a few examples out of the 25-30 rotation guys he coached here isn’t great. And very talented guys like TJD/Kelel/JHS were going to get better on their own to some extent. There are also plenty of examples of players not doing well here. Regardless, I’m pretty sure CDD has a better player dev rep than Woody among HS/prep and AAU programs. Hopefully it makes a difference.

Our head coach actually talking and building relationships with the recruits could make a big difference!

Yea I’m 100% podcasts for sports talk/analysis and 0% ESPN. I like knowledgeable people who can also have fun and not take it all too seriously — I rarely find that on ESPN.

The ACC settled with FSU and Clemson to give them more of the media $ and reduce the exit fee. Next season’s new exit fee is $165M, which then decreases by $18M per year until 2030-31, when the fee would be $75M. Additionally, schools can maintain their media rights if they decide to leave the conference before 2036. As you can tell, this was a temp fix and the conference's days are numbered. 2031 or so will likely be the end. So who do we (the B1G) want? ND would be great if they got squeezed and had to join a conference. They will fight that to the end. Personally, I don't care about fit with the conference -- sports, academics, geography, who cares! I just want some new media markets to increase our revenue! That's college sports baby! I'd say Miami and FSU... Florida is a nice big market for the B1G network and our other media partners. That would be so exciting. ;-)

On that note, Tennessee did take a big run at Altmyer. It wasn’t the incident Cig mentioned, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they called Fernando’s agent, though that simpleton Vol offense would be an instant “no” for a guy with serious pro aspirations. Who was it? Of course Kamara and Ponds come to mind. Maybe someone on the OL. I tend to think a lot of kids on our roster were tampered with by the big programs. We kept ‘em all though.

Haha. This dude has a funny account. Our facilities have come a long way. We have to do more, but it looks pretty good!

That is interesting. In CFB, the best teams are still high school recruiting heavy... they're willing to pay younger guys during their development stage even though they aren't on the field much, if at all. Teams really value having guys in the program multiple years, because when they're ready, they're really good, and they will do all they can to retain them. The portal is still used to fill gaps, but it's not the primary focus. Recruiting folks sort of view portal guys as 1/2 to 1 star less than their ranking and they judge programs more on high school recruiting. CBB is definitely looking different than CFB. I still think you want multi-year guys, but the need to have kids in your program could be a little less given the nature of the sport? I don't know. One thing for sure is rev share is really hurting us on the bball side -- these non-FB schools have so much more money now, it's shocking, at least to me. Things got way more competitive overnight once the House Settlement was complete. On the flip side, it helped us in FB, so... I guess it evens out.

Rod — this is IU after 30 years mostly in the wilderness. Imagine if we got good again…

I've never quite understood why parking is so tough for IUFB. We have a pretty modest stadium -- 52.5K capacity, and less the 8K students who aren't buying nice parking spots, about 44.5K people need parking. That's not a huge number. It seems like we have a lot of lots and fields around the stadium. But gosh darn is parking expensive and hard to get. I'm sure we just have less parking than I think, but sheesh. We sold about 34-35K season tickets and that alone pushed people to the Genesis Church! It appears (I could be wrong though) IU is now highlighting some more lots east of Fee for public parking given all the demand. Interesting stuff and a good problem.

Programs have to be ballpark for their existing players, but it just stands to reason existing players are less expensive. First off, some players on a roster are happy and won’t even be looking around. So at that point it’s not even a competitive market for them. Less competition means lower price. For the players on a roster open to moving, it’s going to take a materially higher offer to get them to uproot from a comfortable situation and take a risk somewhere else. 20% or 30% more may not get them to budge. The current program has an advantage in keeping them. Unlike the above situation, IU was stuck in the most competitive market for players — the portal. More competition means higher prices, and unfortunately we needed a whole roster in this high priced market. Almost every guy we got in the portal this year was contacted by like 30 schools the moment they entered their name. And there is less relationship building in the short portal time frame. Another not so great situation was some of our players committed when we had an uncertain roster, which was an even tougher sell that could have increased the price. It was not an ideal situation. I don’t know exactly how much is saved with healthy roster continuity and construction, but it’s likely a material amount of money.

Only on 18 attempts, but still a nice sign. His shot mechanics look pretty darn good.

Lol

I don’t know about some of those numbers. I doubt UK is near $20M. I’d guess the top schools are $12-13M range. That’s just my estimate, we’re all guessing, maybe I’m wrong. All we had is $10M this year. There isn’t any more money, and we sure shouldn’t take any from football. I think the estimate that lands us as #10-15 in spend is right. Last year I’m pretty sure we were top-5 behind only Duke and maybe one to two others, but Woody lit that money on fire. 20% savings from roster continuity on this much roster spend is around $2M, that’s one more big time player or two very good ones. I think it matters. Just what’s on my mind. I don’t know how good or bad this roster is going to be. At the end of the day, we need CDD to just be a darn good coach who can recruit the right roster get the most from them. Make the tourney this year, nail ‘26 HS and portal recruiting, top-20 all season long in year 2, and keep building from there…

Every time he talks about the developing the staff/organization, culture, and players it's so darn good I cannot get enough it. Whenever he hangs it up from coaching, we need to get him a role in the athetlic dept administration however we can. Anything he is a part of will be very good. Cig said he wants to be top 1/3 in resources in the conference. That's a big goal but he and Scott can do it.

Lol. Our guy is gonna get the SEC all fired up. His presser was very good on both program specific and larger CFB topics. Check it out.

Sounds right. It’s already happened when Fernando passed on UGA and Miami to come here, but IUFB being a place where QB’s can trust the staff with their pro careers is one of the best things I’ve seen happen in IU athletics. Of course we need to Fernando to have a good year, but it’s becoming clear we are a place to be developed and showcased.

It’s nice PU hired a coach where the nicknames O-Dumb and B.O. come so naturally.

Agree. I think he’ll be entertaining, but this year he doesn’t need to make any big statements directed at fans and players with respect to how IUFB is 100% different now under his leadership and staff — last season did a lot of the talking. Obviously, we are far from done, the process of changing the perception of IUFB is moving along nicely after one year…

We need him to be. If not, his time here won't go very well.

*Basket Under Review. Pointing out since it will help people who search for it. Update after listening: Broadly speaking they're not sure we got enough for ~$10M. Maybe that's right, maybe that's wrong. We'll see. But comparing us to Tennessee last year doesn't make sense. Okay the Vols' roster cost $5M and it was better than IU's current roster, but that's a pre-rev share year, making that $5M not comparable to this year. Furthermore, they have to acknowledge UT was a stable program coming off an SEC title and E8 appearance. We just brought in a whole new team because Woody torched the program. That's a different situation, exactly what that means we can debate, but bringing in a whole new team is not ideal. C'mon Eamonn*! I'm not taking sides, I don't know if they're right or wrong, but I think that context matters. * Eamonn is fine, I'm sure some people here have met him or know him.

Committed! Should help with other ‘27 recruits too.

I go back and forth on this one. Archie was terrible. Woody did broadly speaking take Archie's guys and year 1 limped into the tourney. Woody's year 2 was far better than anything Archie did at IU. Was this Woody's coaching (lol)? Was it landing JHS (though that may have been a fluke recruitment)? Or was a lot of this just TJD being awesome and improving? Once TJD left, the wheels came off the wagon, and the wagon exploded. It was probably some mix of all these factors. Keeping TJD was probably the best thing Woody did, of course it helped he could pay him. But Archie never had the top-20 NIL Woody had in year 3 or the top-5 NIL Woody had in year 4. Would Archie miss the tournament with $6M of payroll for the roster? I kinda think he wouldn't, but I can't say for sure. Archie did leave a better program for the next coach. He wasn't the toxic nightmare Woody was. I don't know the answer on who is better or worse -- I get both arguments. At the end of the day, it's amazing how bad they both were. Thankfully they're gone and we’ve got a 100% brand new program from top to bottom.

Little pink houses for Dee-ah-nee.

And things have not got much better since Rout 66. - Most of their top players left - Their huge 52(!) player portal class is not very good. Good luck getting 52 new guys to gel. - I also saw an article where PUFB is getting less than the standard 75% of the rev share. And we know their NIL isn't great. We'll see how Barry does. So far, not so good.

A paradox with the Hysterics is despite their issues, Eric is a good interviewer. This episode with Brian Snow is very insightful on modern CBB. Brian as most know covered CBB recruiting, but he also worked on the PSU and ND staffs, so he has a ton of knowledge on what’s really happening in CBB right now, notably with NIL, rev share, recruiting, and behind the scenes with programs/players. Plus the Haralson recruitment and how IU botched it. He has some positives and concerns regarding IU too. Anyways, it’s a good listen if that interests you. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hoosier-hysterics-podcast/id1609450696?i=1000717508337