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They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Interestingly he said the same thing when he was interviewing for the Knicks job in 2020. Shame they didn't rehire him. "I did my job when I was here," Woodson said. "We won games. The fan base was engaged. I walked out of the Garden many nights thinking that the fans were proud and excited about what we were doing. Am I capable of coming back to New York and helping them build a winning team again? I feel confident in that, I absolutely do." -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
His buyout is $5M and goes down $1M each year. Not great, but doable. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I hate to type this, but I feel good about Brad figuring out the NIL-era if he ever wanted to. Everything he touches turns to gold or close to it: the improbable Butler runs, he did pretty well as the Celts coach (7/8 years in playoffs, three conference finals appearances), and then he figured out the GM job and they won a championship thanks to some of his key personnel moves. GM of the Celts is a much tougher job than executing an NIL strategy. 0.1% chance he comes here, but just saying. Fortunately, I think any coach adept in modern basketball that we can plug into our NIL will do well here. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
It's a shame -- we have easier transfer rules than UM and more NIL. He would have fit in very well here too. He could end up being another big "what if" in the history of IUBB. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
IIRC, there was a rumor he was on a jet to Bloomington and then we announced Crean. Those were the days. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Per X (@pos_josh): For the first time in his tenure, Mike Woodson is not shown on the video board walking out of the locker room. No cheers, no boos. Just a coach walking onto the floor. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I know we keep in touch with him. I doubt he ever comes here. And I don’t blame him, our bball program is a mess. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Ha, I’m not surprised to hear that. That sort of meeting just needs two, three at most people from IU. But of course we took our giant group of “stakeholders” there and botched it. Classic. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I doubt she was that challenging. We just don’t know what we’re doing, so she appears challenging. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
He may still want to coach, but it's got to be pretty fun moving pieces around on an NBA team and that directly leads to making NBA finals and now winning a championship. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
In the end these boards are just entertainment. Same with IU sports. I've been on the IU rivals board for 20 years, I'm ashamed I can't make the connection on Cathy's handle over there lol. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
The worst thing is there is no oversight over him. No accountability. He is negligent and ruins things from a distance with no repercussions. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Yea, she really reinforces how badly IUBB is run. It's incredible. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
This is so depressing. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Thanks -- I didn't know that. Quinn is so out of line I can't imagine more negligent and selfish behavior from a trustee with respect to IUBB. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Pure cronyism. Sold IUBB down the river for their pal who needed career help after the NBA determined he wasn't head coach material. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Yep. IUBB has existed to serve Mike Woodson since 2021. Mike's NBA career had reached a dead end, for seven years no one would hire him as a head coach because the whole NBA knew he wasn't good at it. Quinn used his influence to bail him out and give him the IU job, where he makes 3-4x what he was making in the NBA. Then IU gives him all the resources he could need to field an elite team: a large budget to run the program and top-20 now top-5 NIL to buy players. In return, he provides (i) mediocre to poor results on the court, (ii) well documented half-assed effort, and (iii) divisive behavior and rhetoric. He is toxic and it will be a great day when he leaves. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
My guess is no cheers, but few if any boos. We're a bunch of nice Midwesterners. Maybe I'm wrong. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Looking at Scott’s long tenure at IU and then becoming AD, he had the challenge that he had only experienced a mediocre athletic department / administration that made a bunch of bad FB and BB hires. He never got to work with and learn from an elite athletic department before becoming AD. Personally I give him some leeway on his mistakes (like the Allen extension). I’m hoping he has learned and now understands what we need. FB has been very encouraging. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
No Cathy so far today. She/he must be staffed on game day activities, no time to defend Woody on the message boards. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Yea, there is the group of people who pretend they see some big picture and how it's all about to come together for Woody. They see themselves as wise and the fans are dumb and reactionary. This group will do anything to defend Woody, yet they will freely trash prior coaches without considering any context. It's pathetic. Fortunately, we're at the point the wins/losses, game scores, and rankings are too much for them to spin. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Yea I said we had some AD hiring issues. Quinn doesn’t know hiring college bball coaches or what his role on the board should be with respect to the athletic dept. That’s abundantly clear. He does know cronyism. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
You keep saying IU handles bball coach hires like other schools, yet we’re the only top bball program to suck for 25 years. You just don’t get how good organizations work. That’s a good topic for you to study up on. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Not all of them, but they’re way better than Herbert or Quinn or donors. Another failure has been some AD hires. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
Pagoda replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
We are talking basketball. Nebraska FB has other structural issues around recruiting, and it’s just a different sport. Nice try though.
