steubenhoosier

Planted supporter You made me laugh and made my night. I am just a guy like you who wants to see another championship before I die.

I can only go by what I saw on tv today but it sure looked like SSAH was full and rocking

So, it looks like we will play Penn State, and if we win that game, Nebraska. Not the most daunting schedule but teams we lost to. Whatever happens, happens. Regardless of the off the court stuff, if we win those two I don’t see how Woodson is fired

Glad to see Fran lose on Senior Night, which means his son did as well. Will be so glad once all McCafferys are gone

My first venture into IU fandom was watching the Steve Downing led team get screwed v UCLA. I am right there with you. Still, do you want to root on guys who stand up for their coach and university? Regardless if they stepped on toes, they care enough to speak out. Neither you or I know that they were encouraged to say what they did by Woodson. Maybe they were. Again, the other side of the coin is that people have been critical about bringing in a bunch of guys in the portal who have no real connection to IU. So which is it?

Did you read about him screaming at the Duke assistant coach on the court. Calling their cheerleaders ugly? What head coach does that? Crean went after assistant coaches from Michigan and that was definitely held against him. Don’t know of any coach calling out an opponent’s cheerleaders

Yes Doherty had one great season, with the previous coach’s players. And yes, his character flaws were part of what led to his firing.

Not policing the board. Trying to understand people here. Complaints that bringing in a bunch of portal guys equates to “hiring mercenaries.” Then you have guys who have played here for 4 years and are loyal to their program and coach, and they get ripped. Lime I said, trying to understand the dynamics of this place

Makes zero sense. I am not defending Woodson. The players don’t deserve the criticism.

Not a fanboy at all. Whatever that is. Don’t think it’s the players who need to feel the fan’s displeasure.

Regardless of what guys bring to the table or contribute on the floor, the anger at Woodson doesn’t need to be redirected to the players. Imagine your own work place. Are you going to be better off or worse for publicity criticizing the CEO/owner/boss or whatever. Appreciate the frustration over the situation. Don’t think taking it out on the players is the solution though

You mean like the double digit assists Galloway had the last few games? I get being anti-Woodson. I thought you were supposed to be the guy on this forum. But comments like this, attacking players, is way beneath what you were supposed to be

So now we’re attacking the players? SMH

I agree that for the long term there needs to be a change. However, you have multiple players, including TJD who have publicly stated that Woodson is their guy. That has to mean something. If Pearl came to IU I’d be ecstatic. But players extolling the virtues of Woodson isn’t nothing

Well, I have been on record saying that a change is needed. I also said that I won’t be a prick about it. can’t make it clearer.

I posted earlier some of the non-performance issues that also led to his firing

This is not directed towards the coaches but rather towards the players… I did not see a bunch of guys who looked like they were ready to bail. Lots of energy. Even the guys on the bench were engaged. Good for them

100000%

Probably the last real positive for the season. Hopefully Gallo can play next week. What I do think though, is that I didn’t see a bunch of guys who looked like they have checked out. Even the guys on the bench were into the game.

Agree

Drunk but probably both

Gillespie was a drunk. Sure you didn’t mean Guthrie?

Some similarities. Some big differences… Doherty was hired, in large part because he had the endorsement of Michael Jordan. Similar to Woodson and QB. Doherty brought in some very high end talent, Sean May, Raymond Felton, Rashad McCants. Similar to the talent Woodson brought to IU. Doherty’s second season was 8-20. He also had players leaving mid season. He had an on court screaming match with a Duke assistant coach and called Duke’s cheerleaders ugly. Upon resigning, the AD cited that as much as not winning, the lack of quality character was as much of an issue. As I said, similarities, but not exactly the same story

Understood. The way the question was posted was, what schools with a large number of transfers were “killing it.” Didn’t specify any other criteria. Didn’t say which programs turned around, for instance. As it stands now, no one knows who is coming back and who is leaving. Other than X and Walker, the rest is conjecture. I think Ware is gone. Other than that, until they announce, there’s a chance we only need to plug 2-3 holes. If that happens, to me that’s manageable. If the announcement that Woodson is back was a smoke screen, I would think that either May or Pearl would bring guys where plugging holes wasn’t even a concern

Just looking at this week’s AP Top 25. Kansas and UNC had 5 transfers in and Alabama 4.