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Go watch Div 3. Plenty of good hard working players there operating on that basic system. In fact many even pay for their own college. I know they would appreciate your support.

Leaving for the draft, I assume? Or another program?

Basically your overall performance in a game can be boiled down to Points Per Possession (PPP). For example, you shoot exactly 50% from 2 (ignore 3’s and FT’s for this example) and have 100 possessions in a game you would score 100 points in that game and average 1.0 PPP. Overall multiple games you would average out your PPP as a measure of how efficient your offense. One game it is 1.0, the next it is 1.1, and the next your offense is 1.2. So over your 3 game span you’re averaging 1.1 PPP. Not bad in a vacuum. The problem with college basketball is there are 350 teams all of wide ranging ability and also many that play at varying speeds of tempo which can make comparisons hard. So sites like Kenpom and Torvik try and adjust for the quality of opponent and varying tempo by assigning everyone a pace neutral number that reflects how you would preform versus an average D1 team. It’s always changing—and theoretically getting more accurate—because it’s using the game data from the games everyone plays against each other always adjusting a team’s efficiency number. A similar calculation is used for your defensive efficiency. Together they will give you a ranking and estimate of how you can be predicted to perform versus an average D1 team. Wins and losses don’t factor in. Just the score, because we would likely say a team that lost to a good Michigan team by 1 point would be better than a team that only won by 1 point versus a mediocre team like Siena. So it’s a measure of how you can be predicted to do going forward and not necessarily a measure of your resume, the latter of which matters more to the committee.

That’s the profile of a tourney team. Like you and the rest of the universe we expected that to be flipped. Therein lies the problem for me. You have to think the eye test supports that Deff number holding during B1G play and I’m not convinced it will. Otoh, I hold out hope the Oeff gets straightened out. The other problem there is our “luck” number still hangs around ~300 meaning we can expect to win a little leas than a typical team with those metrics.

I missed the game and can’t tell from this thread if we played well or not. You guys are no help!!

Interesting. I wonder if they have any athletic bigs/wings that could give us trouble. They are ~170/150ish on Kenpom/Torvik. So pretty close to Incarnate Word, efficiency ranking wise. Also, what’s up with the schedule? 2 games in 3 days then almost a week off. I guess it gives the guys a chance to go home for Christmas, hopefully. Otherwise, I don’t know if I necessarily love an almost two week break before conference play.

Yes, it was on purpose. He threw it in the air at like a 45 degree angle. Stupid move, but I seriously doubt the people that it hit were hurt in anyway. One game seems like a reasonable suspension.

I read another post saying the fan has threatened to sue.

There might be some upset fans. But this little back and forth was kicked off by a mod wondering how there were only 80 posts for a game thread. It seems most people simply didn’t care enough to tune in and be upset (or happy as some others are).

Yes, it’s definitely social media that has everyone apathetic after 25 years. The last time IU was a basketball power social media didn’t even exist and the internet barely did.

I wonder if they publish viewership numbers. Playing one of the worst teams in the country behind a paywall at B1G+ on a college football Saturday with a “meh” team—you could probably measure that viewership in the thousands. None of the above, besides the team, is Devries fault. It’s just a really poorly scheduled game. It didn’t sound like they played all that great either.

That’s saying something because his dad was a very good player.

Arguably the resources are better at Michigan.

I was thinking about this in another thread and don’t think I posted anything. But… Theres a good chance the 1/4 century of crap the basketball program produced didn’t sink the program because there was nothing to take its place. Now with IU football’s ridiculous success, I think basketball can almost be killed off for good absent some real success. The monied alumni seem to already have made that decision. The common fan will follow. There’s a time I wouldn’t have missed this game. I honestly almost forgot it was on. But I made time to watch our football opponent last night. Had Cig came ten years ago basketball would be an afterthought.

That blocked punt and one of the worst throws on a pick 6 I’ve ever seen was the difference in the game.

going to bed. Don’t care who wins. Still slightly prefer a bama victory but if we can’t beat these two teams we’re not winning a championship anyhow. rose bowl baby!

The moveable object vs the resistible force

Lmao…both these teams are terrible. Neither should have made the playoffs

Both these teams are weak. I stand by my initial thoughts on the draw…the two best teams we could’ve hoped to play.

No idea what is worse there. The qb not running for a first or the dropped ball. Horrible

Or BYU or Michigan or USC. ND was better than both these teams. But so were others. SEC getting in 5 teams was a travesty. They’re the second best conf

Way more sane than the UK basketball message boards. Winning 7 championships must have a calming effect

Next year when they go to 16 teams

You get it

That’s some Cig slander, boy!! Lol I don’t think anyone can hang with us in a track meet. We have the Heisman QB and best receiver corps in the country. And we have Cig. We should welcome a shoot out.