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Popes in his honeymoon phase. At this point in Woodys tenure everyone loved him too. UK isn’t even in the top half of the SEC. Another yer like this one next year and we’ll see how good he is at the fishbowl aspect. They’ll run him out of town too.

Could be true. OTOH, Crean, Archie, and Sampson are all lifers and grinders. The IU basketball job is hard. That’s why you get paid a lot to do it. It’s a harder job than Oklahoma and Dayton and Marquette and so on and so forth.

Dolson isn’t your problem. He wanted to hire Fitzgerald as the football coach. But his boss, a female at that, might have something to say about it…just like she did with the Fitzgerald (non) hire.

Dusty is just throwing the Michigan fans off the scent with the 30 percent raise and increased buyout.

Of course. We were told this wouldn’t go past our top 2 and #2 is off the board. Welcome coach Steven’s!!

Yea, he coached a whole 8 games before being fired. Either way, there’s good news for Beard fans: given IU’s history there’s a good chance the job will be open again in 4 years. At that time, Beard will have had about 6 seasons to rehabilitate himself and prove to people his problems were a fluke. IU could hire him then, as I suspect that time frame will give people more comfort than what is basically a season and a half at this point.

What an endorsement. It somehow makes me think more of Beard as a coach and even less of him as a person.

Indiana should look at what ND is doing in this regard for football and copy it. Basically they have a recruiting guy/asst GM and then a GM for all the NiL and transfer market stuff. They hired a guy from the Detroit lions to run it like a pro shop. This should free up the coaches to coach more and recruit less. IU could reach out to Lawrence Frank or somebody and see who the hottest young talent scout is in the NBA. I do wonder if an IU/UNC/KU level school set that’s type of turnkey operation up, if you couldn’t get a Wright or Bennett type to come back.

But definitely behind umass-lowell. Seems just like yesterday they were polishing their busts for the basketball HoF. Now look at ‘em…

I think he just bought into the whole “you have to be an inflammatory ****** talking head to succeed in the media” thing. He was a decent enough coach and actually not a bad color guy when on tv. Not sure if that makes him a bad person anymore than Screamn A or Skip bayless, but I don’t pay attention to any of them. I’ve always hated musicals and solo performative art. It’s a shame he is associated with IU. IU should do what they can to distance themselves from him. Speaking of coaching searches, who would want to coach here with that guy lording over your performance everyday on the radio?

I never go out of my way to listen to or read anything Dakich puts out. But I see enough here to consider him an embarrassment to the program. He’s probably the leader in the clubhouse for former players who’ve gotten more from the program than given back to it. Also, Tamar Bates is a senior 2/combo guard averaging 13ppg on 50/40/93 shooting. Sounds like the type of guy IU was trying to bring in this offseason.

Yea…that quote makes me think he’d wilt under the pressure here about ten games in. That’s the thing about the IU job. It can take you to there very top of the sport like few places can. But it is also a hard job. You don’t automatically step in and become better because of the resources here. You have to be able to leverage them and balance all the demands that come with them. Having a set of rabbit ears is probably one of the worst qualities to have for this job.

That is a terrible contract. I don’t follow recruiting much anymore, so if he has a good class coming in I can see that buying him a year. With Guthridge, iirc, it was clear he was the type of assistant who never recruited and they had nobody coming in. His “retirement “ was swift and painless. He also wasn’t a liked former player like Hubert. I would bet that if you polled UNCs fans half are ready to move on, especially the younger ones. Missing the tourney 2/4 years is just unacceptable at UNC. Doherty is literally the only one to do it in the modern era and we know what happened to him.

Assuming one of those wins is Purdue this weekend, I’d bet so

I would rather have Cronin. Lol although Gard has done better than I expected and is a pretty solid coach.

Is that the 84 Olympics? Man…what a picture. Bobbys pants are something else. He has about as much style as he did social graces!

At least. We used to run basically the same set back in HS in the 90’s. Teams that didn’t scout very good would fall for it every time. Our JV squad would run it once a game, at least, too because nobody scouts JV.

In mine he would have been. A few of us called it at the time. I think some misremember how much that Zeller commitment floated Crean through that third year. The Sheehey/VO class seemed a little light and his big class of Watford, Hulls, Elston, and Creek were sophs that paired with Jones eeked out a whole 12 wins. The Zeller commit and Creek injury bought a ton of good will. You’re probably right in your assessment. But a school like Kentucky might have done it. That Indiana never would have doesn’t speak to the impossibility of such a move as it does our mild disposition towards actually winning.

Also, Steve Alford has the top 3 seasons at New Mexico. So we could always hire him…

Clemson. He’s technically tied for first with 25. He’s tied for second at Wright State.

Also, we were temporarily banned from the state of Hawaii due to his FT shooting display and abuse of the hawaiin shirt.

Offense and defense are too connected in basketball to have a football type coordinator for one side of the ball. Also, Creans offenses were very mediocre in the half court when a team could take transition away. In his first two Zeller teams he’s lucky he only played Wisconsin in the regular season once each year, but then got eliminated by them in the BTT both years anyways. In four games vs them Indiana only scored more than 60 points once. Crean shouldn’t have anything to do with the program besides cheerleader on tv.

Also, fwiw, Brad Brownell fits this criteria.

All this really boils down to is that coaches who succeed at the highest level also were very successful at lower levels, which is kind of a no-brainier. We can find a bunch of examples of guys who were really good at lower levels—even meeting this criteria—and failed in the big leagues. It might be a decent filter for guys like Archie though, who was in 2nd place for single season wins at Dayton when we hired him. He’s now in 3rd as Anthony Grant holds the record, who himself washed out at Alabama.

Timing would seem to be wrong. He just retired less than 6mos ago, and I would assume he’d need at least a year off before someone could coax him back. I personally would love that hire and he’d be at the top, or near the top, of my list. He won the ACC 6x and Conf tourney twice in a league where Roy and K were rolling and he never had better than 3rd best talent. We would be looking at a next decade of conf titles, perennial top 4 finishes, top 5ish tourney seeds, and a great chance at hanging another banner. I don’t think Indiana could do much better, but so many things in life come down to timing and it’s hard to see how it would work out.