HinnyHoosier

Wow! All the new faces/names! Welcome! Also I can never actually work again until we have our HC. I put in a solid 6 hours and miss umpteen pages of stuff. How do I tell my CMO (an Illinois grad/fan) I need the rest of the week off for this? Edit: Or rather, the next couple of months off for this until we get THE coach.

Time to let that go now. Step 1 to rectify that has been taken today. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Fan base delirium intensifying.... Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Can we really go get them? Or is that just comparative expression? Either way I’m not mad if either is on SD’s short list. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I never said I bet anything. But it was worth noting. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

We fired Crean on March 16 that year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I would like to see AJ on the bench, and he would be there in a second. That’s where you need your “IU guy(s)”. They can help rebuild a culture that incorporates Old IU with what your HC is building. Speaking of, what comes of Mike Roberts if/when Archie is let go? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Fitting, but Hetfield did it better. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Oh geez. I mean, whatever he has to say isn’t going to be wrong (unless it advocates for Archie to stay). But I can’t stand Gregggggggggg Doyel most of the time. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Someone email Dolson that clip. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I think he would transfer if Archie wasn’t fired. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Well now you’ve ruined it for me. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Once again the B1G placing its common sense on display for all to see. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Aaron Henry is also helping the campaign for coaching change. That miss stings more with each game. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Anemic. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

“Can Indiana’s athletic department can pull off paying out that money and rallying the cash for a $30 million contract – and potentially another huge buyout — to lure someone like Chris Beard, Scott Drew, John Beilein, Bobby Hurley or Mick Cronin? Probably not, as that would take sophistication, savvy and some groundwork that no one has seen any signs from in Bloomington.” -Slam. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I just saw him mentioned in connection with the Penn State opening. Speaking of which, I’m sure Pat Chambers is looking for work... Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I figured that as well. I just thought you meant he was considering opting out the rest of what little is left of this season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

This would be incredibly disheartening and selfish, not to mention a major indictment on Miller and the whole program on top of the National-stage train wreck in which we’ve found ourselves. I like TJD, he seems like a good kid with character. I get the episode last night behind the bench (which I still haven’t seen, however) boils down to a talented young kid massively frustrated. But if he followed through with the scenario above that would be much more depressing to me than just having a wildly underperforming basketball program. That signals a whole new level. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

The most obvious candidate for this job, here, now, and in the near future, is Dane Fife. He checks a lot of boxes (no, I will not say “double check-plus”). Aside from the splash names like Stevens, Beard, Drew, et al, Fife is it. We know we aren’t getting interest from those guys and likely not the quick, adequate funding to fire and hire that scenario if they did want to take a chance on IU. The up-and-coming mid major hire...well, we’re nearing the end of that ride and I don’t think anyone wants to repeat it just yet. And I just don’t think you can take a middling D-1, “meh”-type name without any significant foundational success that does not have ties to a high-end coach or to the school and expect it to sit well with anyone. With IU’s high moral stance, a guy like Pearl won’t be considered. Bringing someone out of hibernation, i.e. Matta? Who knows. Health is a guessing game at times and always without a guarantee. Or, you’re left with the option of waiting on a lower buyout of a lame duck coach. If we move now, it’s Fife. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Anyone have a clip of this TJD FU moment? Sorry. No game access this season (thank you, God). Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I like that example. Mick did have a pretty solid history behind him with Cincinnati, and while Archie did some good things at Dayton I would easily have taken Mick’s body of work over his. Shoot, I would take Cronin tomorrow; he’s proven. It doesn’t have to be a guy with umpteen final fours, top 3 recruiting classes, etc. High level experience and consistent winning. Get a guy like that, give him the resources. Who that is right now, I don’t have many confident guesses. The allure we may have to coaches, probably like we had when Archie accepted the job, is the chance to be the guy who resurrected Indiana basketball. I hope players feel the same. Maybe a big reason why he took the UCLA job. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I agree and would expect that too, unless they have someone lined up that’s considered a home run (but I won’t digress into that specific conversation in this thread). I guess what I’m saying is, is there a realistic candidate, in this moment, that we can confidently hire and start seeing a return on investment in say, 2-3 years? Is that person attainable right now? Only the powers that be have an insight there. If that person isn’t in the picture in the next few months, I’d say we’re better off holding steady rather than panic-hiring a guy that “might” get it done at this level, thus re-washing the same load of laundry for another 4-5 years and losing out on said candidate during that span. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

So I pose the question: do we pine and pressure for a change solely for the sake of change, even if that change is a lateral move or *gulps* worse? Then was the change in energy and perspective worth it for the wasted time and money? That question posed in the current era seems like it would be answered with a resounding ‘No’. Maybe Dolson & Co already have something in the works; that would be fantastic. But if not, do we chase change down a similar path at the risk of continued poo-poo results, apathy, degradation of the HC position, etc? Or do we continue course and give the admin the time it needs to confidently nail down a solid change of direction to get this program moving back in the right direction? It’s like a bad beat in sports betting. The confident wager went south and you can’t help but feel the need to chase and make up the loss. But when you chase, you make a hurried gamble. I don’t want this transition to be the hurried gamble. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I know we want a change, and I know we want to be winners and blue bloods and so on like...yesterday. But if we’ve learned anything from the transition from the Tom Crean era it should be that anything can get worse. If Archie is relieved of his duties too soon without the right guy waiting in the wings, well... can you imagine STILL wishing for the Crean days 4-5 years from now? It feels rock bottom right now. But it’s not, sadly. Let’s just be careful what we wish for and hope the administration moves forward in a way indicative of diligence and the presence of a spine. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners