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@JeffRabjohns: Peter Jurkin: "I will always consider myself a Hoosier." #iubb

Win consistently???  Where does the blame fall
1.  We play in one of the toughest conferences year in and year out.  Top to bottom, any team can win and any team can lose.
2.  There are only a handful of teams that I would consider "elite".  But even the "elite" teams are still vulenerable.  See the Duke team this year in the tournament.  See the Kentucky team of last year.  See Kansas this year in the tournament.  See Syracuse this year in the tournament.  Heck, would you consider Butler an "elite" team for the going to the championship game two years in a row.  No!
3.  The state of NCAA basketball is so broad in talent that it is totally unpredictable.  Players and coaches have to bring it every single game or you will get beat on any given night.
4.  I believe in Hoosierland, we all have the expectations of the program being "elite".  But are we blinded from reality as it stands today.
 
-long story short, I think it is hard for any team to win consistently.  It takes, coaching, talent, and desire to win consistently.  Take one of those away and it simply doesn't work.

Win consistently???  Where does the blame fall
1.  We play in one of the toughest conferences year in and year out.  Top to bottom, any team can win and any team can lose.
2.  There are only a handful of teams that I would consider "elite".  But even the "elite" teams are still vulenerable.  See the Duke team this year in the tournament.  See the Kentucky team of last year.  See Kansas this year in the tournament.  See Syracuse this year in the tournament.  Heck, would you consider Butler an "elite" team for the going to the championship game two years in a row.  No!
3.  The state of NCAA basketball is so broad in talent that it is totally unpredictable.  Players and coaches have to bring it every single game or you will get beat on any given night.
4.  I believe in Hoosierland, we all have the expectations of the program being "elite".  But are we blinded from reality as it stands today.
 
-long story short, I think it is hard for any team to win consistently.  It takes, coaching, talent, and desire to win consistently.  Take one of those away and it simply doesn't work.

Win consistently???  Where does the blame fall
1.  We play in one of the toughest conferences year in and year out.  Top to bottom, any team can win and any team can lose.
2.  There are only a handful of teams that I would consider "elite".  But even the "elite" teams are still vulenerable.  See the Duke team this year in the tournament.  See the Kentucky team of last year.  See Kansas this year in the tournament.  See Syracuse this year in the tournament.  Heck, would you consider Butler an "elite" team for the going to the championship game two years in a row.  No!
3.  The state of NCAA basketball is so broad in talent that it is totally unpredictable.  Players and coaches have to bring it every single game or you will get beat on any given night.
4.  I believe in Hoosierland, we all have the expectations of the program being "elite".  But are we blinded from reality as it stands today.
 
-long story short, I think it is hard for any team to win consistently.  It takes, coaching, talent, and desire to win consistently.  Take one of those away and it simply doesn't work.

Win consistently???  Where does the blame fall
1.  We play in one of the toughest conferences year in and year out.  Top to bottom, any team can win and any team can lose.
2.  There are only a handful of teams that I would consider "elite".  But even the "elite" teams are still vulenerable.  See the Duke team this year in the tournament.  See the Kentucky team of last year.  See Kansas this year in the tournament.  See Syracuse this year in the tournament.  Heck, would you consider Butler an "elite" team for the going to the championship game two years in a row.  No!
3.  The state of NCAA basketball is so broad in talent that it is totally unpredictable.  Players and coaches have to bring it every single game or you will get beat on any given night.
4.  I believe in Hoosierland, we all have the expectations of the program being "elite".  But are we blinded from reality as it stands today.
 
-long story short, I think it is hard for any team to win consistently.  It takes, coaching, talent, and desire to win consistently.  Take one of those away and it simply doesn't work.

This thread is begging to be locked. We don't ask for all rainbows and unicorns, but this whole thing has been beat to death. Nothing new being presented here, just rehashing the same crap. Its the off season, lets save this at least until next season appears to be tanking.

Mo Creek working out for the Wizards tomorrow. Probably just checking on a DC college player to see if a summer league invite would be worth it.


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We need a point in this class.  If Yogi didn't leave early it'd give the new guy a year to learn, and if he did we'd already have the replacement.  Either way, a point guard in this class is a must.

I have been out of the recruiting buzz for a while.
 
Slim chance at Swanigan???
 
IU has always done well at getting kids from Homestead.  Whether athletes or scholars.  Interesting.

I plan on updating my wish list trough the summer, as top prospects pick other schools. If anyone else wants to place their wish list here for monitoring, here's the place.

I want 1 guard and 2 bigs

Guards

1. Allonzo Trier (not mutual interest it appears)–---------------ARIZONA
2. Jalen Coleman-------------------ILLINOIS
3. Donovan Mitchell---------------------LOUISVILLLE
4. Jimmy Whitt -----------------------ARKANSAS
5. Prince Ali -------------------UCLA
6. Shake Milton-------------SMU
Bryant Crawford-----------WAKE FOREST
7. Kenny Williams ----------------------VCU
Terance Mann (added August) -------------------FSU
8. KJ Walton
9. AJ Turner-------------BOSTON COLLEGE
10. Austin Conway----------------WYOMING
runners up: Hyron Edwards, Davon Dillard, Marcus Lovett

Bigs

1. Thon Maker (reclassed)
2. Zimmerman
3. Thomas Bryant (added 7/20)
Caleb Swanigan
4. Henry Ellenson------------MARQUETTE
5. Diamond Stone
6. Ray Spalding---------------LOUISVILLE
7. Juwan Morgan----------------INDIANA
8. Esa Ahmad--------------------WEST VIRGINIA
OG Anunoby (added August)-----------INDIANA
9. Alex Illikainen-------------WISCONSIN
10. Nick Marshall (added 7/20)-----------------Memphis
11. Josh Sharma------------------STANFORD

Runner Up: Derrik Smits

FYI. I got a rule around here that any "hothoosiermom" has to post an avi. Or PM me. 

I'm praying for 2014-2015 IUBB season to be a great one. I truly believe that the last year freshman, now sophomores have a point to prove and they are out for blood this year. More will be revealed in the season to come. #GOHOOSIERS I BELIEVE IN YOU ALL


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With Kenny Johnson there now, I am not liking the vibe from the Gordon's.
 
I think we really need this kid at IU.
 
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2014/06/19/eron-gordon-recruiting-high-school-basketball-louisville/11029001/

Good point Gleas!
 
This starts on the AAU level, carries up through the NCAA ranks (ref. UK), and peters out in the NBA.
 
I still love the game but I feel money/entitlement/early established agreements have garnished the competitiveness that we all cherish.

Good point Gleas!
 
This starts on the AAU level, carries up through the NCAA ranks (ref. UK), and peters out in the NBA.
 
I still love the game but I feel money/entitlement/early established agreements have garnished the competitiveness that we all cherish.

You don't see a difference between Jerry Krause scouting a little known forward out of Central Arkansas (Pippen) and engineering a draft trade for him and then the organization developing him alongside Jordan, as opposed to LeBron, Wade and Bosh spending an entire season figuring out how they can all end up in Miami together? Pat Riley figured out how to make the numbers work, but those guys ending up together was all them. 
 
You don't see a difference between Red Auerbach surrounding Larry Bird with Kevin McHale, Robert Parish and Danny Ainge through trades and smart drafting, and LeBron, Bosh and Wade spending the Olympics the year before figuring out how they can all end up on the same team?
 
You can dismiss what Jordan actually said and what actually transpired in real life for what you think he might have been thinking, but Jordan didn't spend the 86 offseason trying to get Isiah, him and Barkley together because they couldn't beat the Celtics by themselves, he spent the offseason figuring out how to beat them.
 
It's not like when Pippen and Grant were drafted everyone said "Now the Bulls are legit, they got a future HOF'er in Scottie Pippen". The Bulls targeted Pippen in the draft and worked a trade for him and then developed him. If we're going to be accurate with history, Jordan was very frustrated with Pippen during their losses to the Pistons in the playoffs, but Jordan didn't bail and go join Ewing in NYC and orchestrate getting Barkley there too, he got in the gym and worked his butt off to beat the Pistons. 
 
There's just a different mentality in basketball these days. Part of it is the AAU scene, these guys grow up buddies instead of competitors, part off it is the media scrutiny when losing and part of it is instant gratification instead of working to defeat your competitors.
 
I prefer the older days instead of all these players figuring out how to get together because building and developing their own teams is too hard.  
 

This is starting to turn into a scene from "Tincup".
 
Keep hitting from the same spot until you reach the green???

We actually have a "kick" in the offense this year in the drive and kick scheme.
 
When there wasn't a "kick" it was drive and steal.
 
Could an easier offense have made a difference?  Maybe.  You are talking to an old school motion offense guy though.

I'll sacrifice turnovers if we run the ball rather than play a bad half-court offense and chuck up a bad shot with 7 seconds on the shot clock any day of the week. Watching our half-court offense hurt way more than our turnovers. 

Just specifically a Crean thing. He makes horrible passes and has for years

Cowboy...that's two threads with no love on the posts.  Please open the drapes and let some sunshine in.