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I'm really wondering what Archie is going to say to guys like Durham and Moore. OG seems to be the only guy leaving, and I would assume that is Smith's spot to take. If no one else leaves it would be an awkward situation, especially after Archie said he wants all the recruits as well. There simply isn't room.

Feeling good about this recruitment. There will be a lot of playing time available his freshman year and he would be our PG of the future.

Surprised to see Phinisee is a 3 star

He's a great college player, no doubt. I think he can carve out a decent niche in the league, but he will have to be drafted by the right team for that to happen. He's undersized and not overly quick or athletic for his position. He will have to make his living as a mid-range shooter and overwork people down low. He could be Zac Randolph light at his best, IMO.

Swanigan is entering the draft without hiring an agent. No idea why he wouldn't. I don't think there is any chance he can up his draft stock by coming back to college. He's maxed as a player at this level

If everyone besides OG comes back and we keep Justin Smith, I don't expect McSwain to play honestly. Only time I could see it is if both bigs are in foul trouble

I'd bet a lot of money we're better than a 10 seed

My entire point was you can get an "Indiana guy" without actually getting a former IU player. We just need people who respect the culture and do what's right. That is why Archie is an "Indiana guy" without actually being one. Just because we had championship players doesn't mean they are championship coaches. I want people who are right for the job, regardless of where they went to school. We can absolutely get assistants who buy into the culture and our proud tradition without picking from the IU tree. That's all I'm saying

Yeah, people really need to let go of this getting an "Indiana guy" nonsense. We got an "Indiana guy" in our head coach, as many have said. We don't need a former player on our staff to get the culture or recruit Indiana. It gets so old reading all these posts clamoring for someone from the IU tree.

Yeah but where is it said that he will be taking an assistant position if Groce doesn't? Or is that just wishful thinking?

Where is this Lewis stuff coming from? Havent seen his name mentioned until recently

Yup. Was thinking of their model while typing. Not all 5 stars will be one and dones, and if we can get them to buy in for a few years it will be a recipe for sustained success.

There isn't. Only a moral high ground to stand on. Operating in the gray area is just how college basketball is going these days. You either adapt or die, as sad as that is.

I think if Archie can find 5 stars who aren't one and dones we will be set. Mix that in with some 4 stars and a few hungry 3 stars and we will have nice roster balance.

One of my favorite interviews so far

Wonder if Archie has any interest in going after him

Flint, Ostrom, and Groce would be a dynamite group of assistants. Archie wasn't lying when he said he was trying to build the best staff in college bball. Hopefully Groce joins sooner rather than later. It would be a really nice mixture of recruiting prowess and coaching ability.

Ostrom will be on staff. It's Groce looking at the Akron job. Only reason there hasn't been an announcement on Bruiser and Ostrom is because they're waiting until this upcoming week to announce it.

I agree and think this is why Ostrom is coming in. He'll be our main recruiter

I know. I corrected myself above

Ah my mistake. You're correct. Disregard my post lol

Looked up Bruiser, he most recently coached at Drexel in Philly. Archie is from the Philly area, so I'm guessing that's where the connection comes from.

I will never understand why people like the guy. Yeah he brought us back, like it was his job to do. I guess he's a "good guy" in public.

Just listened to Crean on PTI. Wow. Brought up that he should've campaigned harder for a second start over at IU after Victor and Cody left. Then states that if he ever has to campaign for a job opening he will get out of coaching. What a joke. So glad he isn't overseeing our program anymore.

Agreed. Dude always seemed like he was on roids