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My completely uneducated opinion.....LSU. It appears to be the only one he bought a specific size fitted hat.

What about other grad transfers? They wouldn't impact '20 scholarship availability and we have certainly have room and needs to fill. Are we set with Brunk or do you see the staff pursuing others in the grad transfer market?

The only thing worse is taking a WHOLE DAY off from checking the board, coming back to see 2 new pages on the Anthony Harris thread that is 99% arguing over who ruined Robert Johnson's 3-point shot.

Sheesh, man. And Archie took Dayton to the Elite 8. Dayton isn't a basketball wasteland but he took them to as many NCAA tournaments in his tenure than they had been to in the previous 25 years. And the single point of why we look at Bennett and some other coaches records during their first few years is to show that there are GREAT examples of elite level coaches who had very unspectacular starts to their current coaching positions. Therefore it would be ridiculous to write Archie off at this point. Whew....it may be time to dive head first into baseball season.....or like....yoga.

Ah, got it. That's the part I was missing. Thought I read otherwise, but that makes sense. So its sounds like there are two main options for declaring. With or without an agent. With an agent you have to go through the draft and can only return if undrafted (and it sounds like you have to have participated in the combine).

It probably has a lot to do with the rules changing. For the past couple of years you could declare and still come back after getting feedback. Now you can even hire an agent to go through the process, get the feedback, and still come back if you cut ties with the agent. You can even wait to see if you get drafted and if you don't, still come back (the way I understand it). If you're an underclassmen and have a chance at the NBA, there is nothing to lose by declaring.

I was a student during the 2002 run. It was spring break in PCB during the first weekend of the tourney, then the sweet 16/elite 8 the next weekend, then final four weekend (was lucky enough to get my name drawn in the lottery for 2 tickets so my roommate and I drove down to ATL), then little 5 week/weekend after that. It was an amazing/thrilling/exhausting roller coaster month that I'll never forget. No clue what my grades ended up being that semester....

Don't the rules now state you can even sign with an agent to help with the process but still pull your name and return? I don't think Romeo does this, just thought I heard that somewhere.

I've been wondering this too. There are like 74 holiday tournaments. How are never involved in any of them? Granted, many are not that desirable but between the Preseason NIT, the Maui, the one in the bahamas, puerto rico, Vegas, more that I can't think of right now....do we specifically avoid these? It would be a great opportunity for quality wins.

This was the biggest thing I noticed. I didn't watch all of them last night, but I saw far too many smiles. Almost like they were relieved it was over. And the player who Chris (I think) is referring to.....seemed like could not have cared less.

Chris do you see any movement with our assistants? I'm guessing no, but curious if this would be the perfect opportunity to bring on former player like Lewis. I was never a fan of hiring a head coach that had IU ties simply b/c he had IU ties. But having someone on staff that's been here before, I can see value in that.

Alright, let's play the game! Gregg Marshall's start to his Wichita St. career: 1st year: 11-20 2nd year: 17-17 CBI 3rd year: 25-10 lost in the NIT 1st round 4th year: NIT champion All in the Missouri Valley. Even though they are in the AAC now, are we really going to lose our minds b/c we got beat by a coach who ALSO didn't get his team to the NCAA tournament this year? Can we REALLY say we'd never miss the tournament if we had a coach that took FIVE years to get to the tournament in his current job? No. Just stop. He had his time to get his system/culture/players in place. Then he became a hot commodity. But there is no guarantee at all that we'd be better off if he was our coach for the last 2 years.

Year 1: 16-15 no postseason Year 2: 19-16 NIT quarterfinals I referred to this in some other thread but you can find examples of high level coaches all over the place whose first 3 years (or more) somewhere didn't include anything special. I hate having to be patient, but it is necessary. That said, time to turn the page and get some real buy in this summer. Whoever is on the fence, best of luck finding a better fit somewhere. Fill the holes with guys who also buy in to winning now (and can SHOOT!!). There are PLENTY of questions to answer next season. Get to work answering them now.

My biggest worry with him at this point is (although I admit, pretty silly) the attention he's getting for this unlimited ammo cheat code tattoo he has on his arm. That's not even meant to be a knock on Devonte specifically, I would just worry about any kid his age who gets that kind of attention, for that specific thing. He's got a hot hand right now, I just hope he plays continues to play pretty smart and doesn't start leaning toward thinking he actually does have unlimited ammo and taking poor shots.

I really hope this is our attitude. This season didn't turn out like anyone expected. But it doesn't have to end with such a bitter taste. If we were to go with this damn thing, let's be honest....that is progress! It's not exactly the progress we want (half the fan base believes we should have won the Big Ten and been in the final four this year). But, you can look up a ton of examples of high level coaches who's first few years didn't include anything impressive. No postseason in year 1 --> NIT champs in year 2 is progress! And yes, I understand the challenges ahead in year 3, but I sincerely hope this group takes the opportunity they have and makes the most of it now. We very well could be looking back in 7 or 8 years like Michigan or Virginia or Villanova fans are right now and thinking, "man remember the struggles we had in Archie's first few years? We were pissed about being in the NIT but look at us now!" If we are going to be the program we should be and truly get back among the blue bloods, it won't be built in 2 seasons.

So I log back on to check for new info and I get to sift through 2 or 3 pages of people arguing about whether Trayce is going to get popped tonight. I'm not sure any recruitment has ever been this tight lipped.

They tweeted yesterday that we were out after the loss. They also responded to someone who asked if there was a "dream scenario" still alive where a bunch of other bubble teams lost allowing IU to sneak into a Dayton game with..."No". So their bracket must not have been updated. Unless they had a change of heart later in the evening. I'm guessing the reality is we could not have possibly made ourselves look worse yesterday. Not only by losing but by how we lost with very little fight until the end. Had it been a truly back and forth game with both teams fighting like hell, maybe we put ourselves in a position to be seen as equally deserving of a bid even with a loss. But now we give a leg up to all of other teams like Belmont who so many people are arguing are deserving. The last impression we gave was a reminder of the team we were during the most important stretch of the season. We'll have to see if the committee takes that into consideration, or simply looks at things on paper. I say we are done though. And deservedly so.

And let’s just hope they go ahead and lose that 16th game right off the bat. Against Kansas in KC so it seems likely. 16-16.....there is just simply no chance the committee can allow that team in. Right?

Yikes. Today was just not good. Marquette likely loses us a quad 1 win. Many bubble teams picked up key wins. Doesn’t necessarily change what we have to do, but we should hope like hell Marquette jumps back into the top 30 NET during the big east tourney.

Here's what we should really hope happens. Marquette wins the Big East tournament, leaving no doubt they'll still be a quad 1 win for us. Minnesota and Ohio St. win their last game of the season. I think OSU is currently #48 and Minny #54 in the NET. If we play one of them in the #8/#9 game, and they are in the NET top 50, that's another opp for a quad 1 win. Even with a loss against Mich/MSU, at 18-15, I just can't see a team with 7 quad 1 wins being left out. Here's the possible nightmare scenario. Marquette continues to struggle and slides another couple of spots. We lose a quad 1 win. Ohio St. and Minnesota both lose their last game, which is very possible. We play one of them in the 8/9 BTT game and both are just outside of the top 50, on a neutral court, that's only a quad 2 win opportunity. 18-14 w/ 5 quad 1 wins may put the committee in a mindset that our game against Mich/MSU is a win and get in game. I hate that. Note: this ^^ is all assuming I understand the NET and quad systems correctly. I think I do, but someone correct me if I'm off on something here.

That may be true. But we're talking about what Cal can sell. He can sell that. Do you honestly think its a good sales pitch to a recruit to say, "yeah but most of those players could have come to play for me somewhere else and still been in the NBA."? That's a pretty lame selling point.

I think we as a fanbase reeeeeaaaally want this to be true. But unfortunately its just not. He'll be able to sell this snake oil as long as it continues to be true. UK has 25 players in the NBA, the overwhelming majority of which played for Cal, and 12 of the 25 have entered the NBA since 2015. Duke can claim they are right there recently, but if a kid is looking for a path to the NBA, Cal can still sell that "snake oil" better than anyone. I hate it, and I really wish it wasn't true, but it is.

Well considering this is the first time any conference has ever played a 20 game schedule, your answer is that an 8-12 team has NEVER been considered! :-) But that also means that a team that is 4 games under .500 has NEVER had 8 conference wins. Combine that with the possibility of 6-7 quad 1 wins, which no other bubble team will be able to claim, and we certainly have a chance. I'm not overly optimistic we win out though, and even if we beat MSU again, and then possibly lose to Illinois, I think a 7-13 conference record makes it impossible.

Ah, you beat me to it. Is this actually a rule change though? A very similar play happened to me many many years ago playing in (I think) 8th grade AAU ball. I hit a three and the defender jumped to defend it way late and came down, fouling me as he couldn't stop his momentum. We happened to be in the bonus so I got a chance for a 5 point play. Hit the first....missed the second. Mentally, my game never really recovered. Hung up the sneakers after freshman ball......oh what could have been! :-)

I was thinking the same thing at the time the play happened and I don't recall seeing any replay. My only guess is that the foul came.....after the shot? Maybe the defender (not even sure who it was) came down and then bumped into Morgan as they fell out of bounds? Only logical explanation I can think of.