NashvilleHoosier

They tweeted yesterday that we were out after the loss. They also responded to someone who asked if there was a "dream scenario" still alive where a bunch of other bubble teams lost allowing IU to sneak into a Dayton game with..."No". So their bracket must not have been updated. Unless they had a change of heart later in the evening. I'm guessing the reality is we could not have possibly made ourselves look worse yesterday. Not only by losing but by how we lost with very little fight until the end. Had it been a truly back and forth game with both teams fighting like hell, maybe we put ourselves in a position to be seen as equally deserving of a bid even with a loss. But now we give a leg up to all of other teams like Belmont who so many people are arguing are deserving. The last impression we gave was a reminder of the team we were during the most important stretch of the season. We'll have to see if the committee takes that into consideration, or simply looks at things on paper. I say we are done though. And deservedly so.

And let’s just hope they go ahead and lose that 16th game right off the bat. Against Kansas in KC so it seems likely. 16-16.....there is just simply no chance the committee can allow that team in. Right?

Yikes. Today was just not good. Marquette likely loses us a quad 1 win. Many bubble teams picked up key wins. Doesn’t necessarily change what we have to do, but we should hope like hell Marquette jumps back into the top 30 NET during the big east tourney.

Here's what we should really hope happens. Marquette wins the Big East tournament, leaving no doubt they'll still be a quad 1 win for us. Minnesota and Ohio St. win their last game of the season. I think OSU is currently #48 and Minny #54 in the NET. If we play one of them in the #8/#9 game, and they are in the NET top 50, that's another opp for a quad 1 win. Even with a loss against Mich/MSU, at 18-15, I just can't see a team with 7 quad 1 wins being left out. Here's the possible nightmare scenario. Marquette continues to struggle and slides another couple of spots. We lose a quad 1 win. Ohio St. and Minnesota both lose their last game, which is very possible. We play one of them in the 8/9 BTT game and both are just outside of the top 50, on a neutral court, that's only a quad 2 win opportunity. 18-14 w/ 5 quad 1 wins may put the committee in a mindset that our game against Mich/MSU is a win and get in game. I hate that. Note: this ^^ is all assuming I understand the NET and quad systems correctly. I think I do, but someone correct me if I'm off on something here.

That may be true. But we're talking about what Cal can sell. He can sell that. Do you honestly think its a good sales pitch to a recruit to say, "yeah but most of those players could have come to play for me somewhere else and still been in the NBA."? That's a pretty lame selling point.

I think we as a fanbase reeeeeaaaally want this to be true. But unfortunately its just not. He'll be able to sell this snake oil as long as it continues to be true. UK has 25 players in the NBA, the overwhelming majority of which played for Cal, and 12 of the 25 have entered the NBA since 2015. Duke can claim they are right there recently, but if a kid is looking for a path to the NBA, Cal can still sell that "snake oil" better than anyone. I hate it, and I really wish it wasn't true, but it is.

Well considering this is the first time any conference has ever played a 20 game schedule, your answer is that an 8-12 team has NEVER been considered! :-) But that also means that a team that is 4 games under .500 has NEVER had 8 conference wins. Combine that with the possibility of 6-7 quad 1 wins, which no other bubble team will be able to claim, and we certainly have a chance. I'm not overly optimistic we win out though, and even if we beat MSU again, and then possibly lose to Illinois, I think a 7-13 conference record makes it impossible.

Ah, you beat me to it. Is this actually a rule change though? A very similar play happened to me many many years ago playing in (I think) 8th grade AAU ball. I hit a three and the defender jumped to defend it way late and came down, fouling me as he couldn't stop his momentum. We happened to be in the bonus so I got a chance for a 5 point play. Hit the first....missed the second. Mentally, my game never really recovered. Hung up the sneakers after freshman ball......oh what could have been! :-)

I was thinking the same thing at the time the play happened and I don't recall seeing any replay. My only guess is that the foul came.....after the shot? Maybe the defender (not even sure who it was) came down and then bumped into Morgan as they fell out of bounds? Only logical explanation I can think of.

I feel like you can say this about nearly any Purdue player who contributes. Edwards is obviously a no-brainer. How bad do we need a Ryan Cline this year? As annoying as Haarms is to watch, we would love him if was on our roster and he would allow Juwan to play the 4. Same with Williams. I'd love to have an Eifert on our team. There are probably more, but that's who I can think of off the top of my head.