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Life can be so hard. Especially for things outside our control. I stopped and prayed for your family Bow and hope God brings healing and peace to your family. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="basketball4u" post="48967" timestamp="1395025631"]Wait and see... I have had to remove tweets because they didn't want the truth out Sent from the gym using BtownBanners[/quote] What are we going to see? If they covered it up is it getting uncovered? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

When you bring in recruits that have been low 5 and high 4 star recruits for the better part of their junior and senior years you expect them to give more than what we have seen of the 12 class. Low 4 star high 3 star recruits maybe they start to be tough their junior year but when you can get a top ten class you expect results earlier. This year we saw two from this class get suspended and miss several games. We saw their minutes drop during the middle and latter part of the year. One guy, who is a great guy, cannot even get healthy enough to play. The best player was a McD player and has played a lot for us. He is a very key player for us and it is nice having him. This 12 class is way behind where their rankings suggest they should be. Sure rankings can be wrong but isn't that what we all lauded Crean for being able to do? Find diamonds in the ruff? Look past rankings and find talent? Of the five kids in that class only one is getting it done. Hanner had some "moments" this year but down the stretch when we needed wins, when Noah was not playing well or much, Hanner did not give us much. With a class of 5 or more you cannot hit on only 20%. That is too big a class and too important to sustaining the progress. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I am confident, ok 80% confident, that Crean made some comment about Vic and the NBA near the beginning if the season last year. It became a taking pint on the message boards. His comment was based on what Vic does in practices and what the scouts who attend those practices were saying. If my memory is correct then this is revisionist thinking. Cody going pro was obvious. <br /><br /><br />Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Brad Stevens is an Indiana guy. He lived here, worked here and went to college here. Indiana guy, check. Billy Donovan is an Indiana guy too, somehow I am sure we can make a case for that. <br /><br /><br />Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

<br /><br />So we fire him next year and we do not have the transfer issue? <br /><br />Also if we fire him we will be right back where we were, you mean like last place in the BT? Pull up the standings. We are already there. <br /><br /><br />Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I do not think we need an Indiana man unless one is available. Fife not ready and Alford is less proven than Crean. RMK was not an Indiana man. If Crean cannot get the ship righted we will be making a change. He certainly should not be fired now but the red flags are starting to go up for me - a long time supporter. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="RoadToZion" post="28321" timestamp="1389036890"]Because I know he's coming back. Fact. [/quote] I guess I find it hard to believe it can be a fact at this point. Sounds like you know Noah or someone close to him. A question for you then, if Noah is projected as the 8th pick now and you know he is back as an absolute fact, is there a point or position in the draft where that changes? If he somehow moved up to 4 is he still a lock to come back? Conversely since you have an inside connection, if we do. It being in any other bigs for next year could this cause Noah to reconsider staying? CTC promised Cody he would bring in a center but none of the centers could play GMM and Jurkin. I wonder if Noah sees himself as a 5 in the NBA or as a 4. If it is as a 4 I would think he would want some court time as a 4. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="RoadToZion" post="28312" timestamp="1389030337"]Will all you sally's still be pouting when Noah comes back and we'll be a top 10-15 team again next year?[/quote] Sure. Where will you be if Noah does not come back? Seems that the only way we are a top 10-15 team is if he is back. He is projected to be a lottery pick now so I would venture to say there is a very good chance he will not be back. You can point to Cody coming back as an example sure but the team Cody came back to was one that was on the upswing. If Noah does not come back will you become a "Sally" too? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Not necessarily. The last two times Mallory moved on the moved were announced on Dec 17th and Dec 18. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I think I have good news. Circle Dec 19th 2013 on your calendar. I looked back at the LSU boards in 2008 and they looked a lot like ours now. Interestingly he was not fired officially in '08 because he moved on to the Lobos. I found an article though where Mallory admitted he did not really have a spot as DC with LSU if he did not move on. Fast forward to 2010 and the Lobos and again with a defense that is getting worse Mallory moves on this time to IU without being fired I believe. The announcements occurred on almost the same date (Dec 17th and Dec 18th) just 2 years apart. So this got me thinking...I noticed a lot of our '14 recruits have been turning in paperwork recently to enrol early and I wonder if the previous Mallory exits weren't strategically timed. Combine the early enrollment a with keeping kids committed and I am thinking/hoping we have not heard an announcemt because we (IU and Mallory) are both taking a look without giving fuel to others to poach our kids until a DC is named. Mallory is probably a like able guy and works favorably on his exit so I could see why he might travel on recruiting visits. Then on Dec 19th 2013 when we announce that Mallory has accepted some coaching job somewhere that is spun into a believable story and also announce the hiring of a new DC we do not lose ground with recruits. We should hear something in a week and a half Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners