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After seeing all these recruits who we missed on and who are struggling I am not sure what to think. We missed on so many of them and ended up with two guys who barely see the court.

The EWU loss though was just bad because of how it happened. We had the game won and EWU did not look to be a problem. We lost not because they were a team to be reckoned with but because we could not finish the game. We could not defend and gave up layup after layup during the last 5 mins. Last year we had a lot of similar losses in the BT and were equally bothered. Games we control throughout but cannot close out. Sure EWU being the team that came back did not help but the manner on which we lost was this issue for me.

agree. If they were roommates that really seemed a bad pairing.

This is how I would present it as well. It would help if Noah was someone kids could contact as a reference and have him give glowing recommendations. I do not know this to be untrue but I get the impression the relationship is frosty between him and the staff.

Ok. I think we are a legit big away from being a championship level team next year. I agree that with what we have coming in and coming back we could be top 15-20 good but not sure we have enough to get past sweet 16. I get that is still pretty good and should warrant some excitement but then after that year we lose Yogi, Nick and HP and possibly JBj. So another peak at sweet 16 then reload.

Who is it that gives us size next year? I thought Morgan was essentially the same height as Perea. Does he play more like a center or is he a rebound machine?

Yeah I heard that too. There were announcers back in 12/13 that made comments as well about how hard and intense our practices were that year too.

Maybe after a few months but I doubt he could join the team in January and be the best player on the team at that point. That is what it seemed you were suggesting.

You think that he would be better than Yogi and JBj?

I think you and CF are correct. Remy and Hollowell fit in that boat, Roth and Creek in another and you could add Jurkin in another. While all have separate reasons we lost a lot of guys recently that could have helped provide veteran leadership.

Isn't the argument for keeping guys like Remy primarily related to the lack of leadership concerns we have? It seems each of the last two years we keep hearing we are young and don't have veteran leaders. Guys like Remy, even if role players can be that veteran leader we seem to be missing. The last couple of years we have had guys like Remy leave and have replaced with freshmen. I remember guys like Joe Hillman who did not average a ton of points but was such a valuable leader his final years.

No it is a natural drift. Your post was spot on the mark. Best post of the day.

They are pretty recent things aren't they? Show Cause issues. I thought some other coach was recently hired who still had some show cause time left but cannot remember who.

Preference on a guy like Dino would be for him to have been a HC somewhere longer but man he has had two quick turn arounds already

Yeah IF we were to make a change I would favor the highly successful MAC level coach or a sweater wearing guy with a manageable (hopefully) show cause thing. The MAC level guys would recruit about the same level just up a little notch. The sweater guy is said to like red.

I would not expect him to be the only guy they bring in.

The fact that the defense looks improved and Wilson has built strong offenses except this year should allow him another year. Assuming we will have the defense is still be good next year and the offense will bounce back next year. If Wilson is still a jerk behind the scenes then he may wear out his welcome quickly though.

I agree. He may get another year or two but this QB situation is on him. Defense does look a little better. We can run well. The passing game is his specialty and even if you lose your starter you should be stronger here.

Crean better hope some kids and coaches from programs with strong talent in 15 and 16 like him a lot too because he may not be here for those 17 kids.

Yeah not real sure how to feel. Nate getting hurt was unfortunate but he did not look great before that. None of the backups have looked ready. TC has been incredible to be leading the country with such an inept offense around him. I think the line from Hoosiers works well here. "I am trying real hard to believe you know what you're doing here".

No see posts above yours. More than an appearance thing.

Some know but do not want to talk about it. Some who seemed to know suggested looking on Purdue's message board So if you want to know what some are suggesting look there. I have no idea myself but since there has been limited encouragement from IU for him like they did for Hep and the asst or strength coach who had the spinal injury then I suspect it is not a pleasant situation.

Should get a good draft pick

The reason I think the NCAA stuff may benefit us is IF they somehow render Syracuse less competitive due to sanctions. The scholly situation is probably not enough of a difference on paper and would depend on how the coaches explain it.

I suspect when we hear things like that it might mean the kid is heavily weighted one way but lingering doubts keep option B alive. Even if 90-10, that 10 is usually based on something you like and that component might enable that school to stay partially in play.