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I wouldn't call you that. I just personally couldn't be like that. I can't even see you or anyone else being like that or you wouldn't be here or watch the games. What would be the point?

Completely agree. That is what frustrates a lot of people really and some don't realize it. People continually act as if he doesn't see the same things he does and he is just dumb. Sometimes you can only lead a horse to the water. You can't make them drink it too. That's on him though as he recruited these kids.

I could see myself in this camp. I want a change but it is still Indiana to me. Growing up I had it instilled there are no names on the back of the jerseys for a reason. I have always viewed it that way. This to me is like the late 90s. A change is needed, but Crean does enough to continually keep his job. I just hope we don't have the bad breakup we did then. Only this time people would be happy not pissed.

Yes. The games I went to it was still split.

Honestly 12 is what I expect or he should be gone. Be careful. I was told I wasn't being realistic with that. Our schedule lines up too good for a 9 or 10 win year.

Iu - 83 - Nebraska - 68

The worst part was Ray Charles could see an adjustment in the zone that created that opportunity and yet it doesn't carry forward. That should have been the light bulb moment. IMO

Thats kind of what everyone does here though? Like the SC cheering on players has turned into him cursing and coaching. Most look at that as fact now. Or that he can't coach at all. I mean if him sucking this bad equates to 11-3 then great.

I agree with that.

Ha we didn't have time to think about anything else other than the fire Crean thread.

Nobody is arguing that?

Lol trust me we want the same thing. I am just not sure it happens this year unless we tank conference. Glass will point clearly at our record. IMO. Hope I am wrong but history of Glass making changes aren't strong.

That makes me feel better.

Yeah exactly. I hope for your sake on our next coach he coaches exactly how you want.

I am not so sure I agree completely with that. That's why I honestly see Glass giving him next year unless we go under .500 in Conference.

Whats his market value though? That's where the sides may differ. He could easily say I am the head coach of IU. I am staying on that level.

Lol you have never given that dude credit. Look at the schedule. If you think that is impossible then fair enough. Then we hold this team to different standards. That's fine.

You are good. Watshot found it. I won money. They never cover on the road.

I can't believe they are ranked 4th but every team is getting upset.

With how buyouts are worded I am sure there is verbiage of looking within Power 5. Look at how long Howland was out. He went to Final Fours. We can't just say a decent job will be waiting. Edit: it's kind of like people on unemployment. If it's not benefiting them they can look in unrealistic spots.

Maybe he would want to sit a year after how things have went down here?

Maryland down 8 to PSU at home. Uh guys. Time to get start the fire Turgeon thread going.

And that is the problem with Crean. His defense is similar to his offense in that he wants to hit that Homerun. He doesn't want the boring mid range game because statistically it isn't the right play. Same as statistically the more deflections you get the better chance you have to win. Problem with both is you have to have basic fundamentals at both end we don't have. That's on him.

Yes bad, but impossible to get back to .500 on a lifetime contract? Give me a break. That's the stuff that's starting to make some sound like Crean.

He talked about the need to get consecutive stops, reducing turnovers, and winning a game on the road when they didn't play well. I wouldn't call that fiction.