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If Brad fails here we need to shutdown the program, or basically run it on a shoestring budget and give up and focus on FB.

Yea. IIRC for some periods growing up he lived out of a car. That sucks I can't imagine that. If we could have got good players like him in and made it work, that's great, but Kelvin generally couldn't get them to buy-in to the whole student-athlete strong team culture thing. I just remembered Kelvin had Bud Mackey committed. Kelvin was just way off on recruiting some of these guys.

No. He’s a great coach and a great GM. He has figured out every new challenge he has taken on. He would adjust as needed to succeed in 2025 CBB. Unfortunately, he is a slim chance to come here.

I am pretty optimistic Dolson will get to make the call on the new coach. A new coach has to happen end of season. But, I tend to doubt the group of idiots ("stakeholders") that influence IUBB have the fortitude to fire Woody midseason and figure out an interim coach setup that can get something out of this very expensive $6M team. This would be a very difficult and delicate management change that only very talented leaders can pull off. With all the stakeholders involved in our stupid program, IUBB likely doesn't even have the organizational structure in place to allow Scott, with Pam's support, to go in and make a daring and gutsy midseason coaching change. Woody almost certainly still has some stakeholders on his side and they would probably go wild internally and cause problems that make trying this not worth it. The easy road for IUBB is to buckle down with Woody until the end of the season. They probably take this option.

It’s not too respectful and courteous to condescendingly call everyone who disagrees with her emotional. It’s sly trolling to wind people up. That plus her fake insider persona and you’ve got a typical attention seeking character. Lame.

Nah, just a message board troll.

Troll loves attention.

Hope not. Trolling got old.

No that’s his UM deal.

He should be the boss, but he has not been that on the bball side yet.

Yea. We lost our blue blood status at this point. Replaced by UConn.

I’m sure the whole B1G loves Woody at IU.

Declaring everyone is emotional usually doesn’t calm things. She offers no useful info — oh Woody won’t be fired midseason and if the season goes bad he probably does? Stop the presses! In the end she/he is a troll.

Trollin’

State College is pretty bad, tiny town in the middle of nowhere. I admit they are a big program.

Yea, his raise puts him in the top-10 in the country. We just made the playoff and he's interviewing? Come on.

I was hoping our new large staff budget would prevent this. He is making about $1.9M here. But we'll see what happens.

Ha, trying to get in an argument over who is a bigger fan, as if that matters with respect to who is right about what should be done with IUBB. Kathy is unraveling again.

You have no understanding of what it takes to run a successful basketball program or really any sort of organization. IU doesn't either, though I am hoping Scott is the exception.

Ah yes, expectations and the fan base are the problem. Yet many other basketball schools succeed, they have expectations and engaged fans too. Same with football schools and their football programs -- many of those fan bases are far wilder than IU's. Maybe we just need to hire a good coach.

This is grim.

No. He put his unqualified friend ahead of the program. It’s pretty clear what he cares about.

I don't know who, but it's clear some people in the program have started an anti-fanbase sentiment that has spread quite a bit the past year and half. We see it with Kathy, but also Woody (true fans), some of the players (y'all need to chill), Tyme, SDB, and a few other posters with some program connection on various boards Interestingly, as you note, the fans are one of the best things IUBB still has going for it... that and NIL. IUBB has been a mess for a long time, but this is a new low. This program is so incapable of taking responsibility they'll even point fingers at the fans... the fans that are somehow, after 25 years of terrible basketball, still caring, donating, and cheering for any sort of reasonable effort.

Looking at some of your old quotes, they're your guys. "You think most of those people [previous ADs] know more about basketball than Quinn? Uh, no. Not even close. Most of them hadn’t even been ADs before we hired them." "Crean was no better than Woodson as a coach and he squandered far more talented teams than MW has been able to assemble." "Woodson was as ready as Miller, if not more so."

The bball program led by your guys Quinn and Woody continues to be impressive!