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It's the reason why you hire Drew Adams. He needs to deliver. On a related note and while we're on rumors, heard from a good buddy who is still pretty well connected to the local basketball scene in the area that Tre Singleton could be available this offseason. He along with his high school teammate Michael Cooper have expressed interest playing with one another. Singleton has had a pretty solid freshman campaign absent perimeter shooting and would definitely add an element of toughness and athleticism to the front court. Don't know much about Cooper other than his stats suggest he's had a pretty terrific year at Wright State. Would seem to fill the backup PG need for next year with the potential for an expanded role as an upperclassmen. Didn't say if IU was in the mix or not. Maybe Cooper just ends up at Northwestern.

-3 freshman $300-400k -Miles/Sisley $400-500k -Dorn as potential 5th starter/6th man $500-750k From that group alone you potentially have a starter and 2-3 key depth/rotation pieces and collectively have only spent $2-3mil. Against a $12mil budget, you have $9-10 million to add 5, maybe 6 players depending on how the staff feel about Drake and Harris who will command very little. You have enough to buy an elite big ($2.5-3mil), an elite guard ($2.5-3mil) a 2nd really good guard ($1.5-2mil), a serviceable backup big ($500-750k), and a 4 man.

It’s not the same. We vastly overpaid for Conerway and Bailey this year. There’s a chance that guys 6-9 on the bench this next year are collectively making equal or less than what those two made this year. Reality is that IU has to “pay” for 3 high end portal guys this year and then supplement 2-3 complimentary/depth pieces. IU has a larger budget and needs less players (from the portal).

So $8.3 million for about 4-6 portal players vs $10 million for 12 players last year? How is this possible @WayneFleekHoosier

Everybody is getting paid, but the freshmen aren’t making “bank”. Non-5* freshman aren’t sniffing 7 figures. Everybody you listed above with the exception of maybe Dorn will be making less than $500k next year. I will assure you IU’s 6th and 7th man next year won’t be making 7 figures like they are this year. Our top 7-8 paid players from this year are all gone. IU won’t be adding 8 new players from the portal. It’s just math.

The 3 freshman coming in + the possibility of Sisley, Dorn, Miles and maybe a few more aren’t going to command anywhere near the pool of money that it would if you were building a roster from scratch. That’s 6-8 guys who are depth/development pieces on next years roster. We’re likely paying our 6th and 7th players (Conerway/Bailey) this year close to 7 figures each. IU is going to have more money to spend on less players this coming portal season because they aren’t starting from scratch.

We don't need nor are going to get $20 million for a basketball roster. Retaining 3-4 guys + the incoming freshman, should give us ~$8-9mil to get 3 high impact guys and a couple depth pieces.

Javon Small went from an unknown to NBA draft pick currently getting run with the Grizzlies and Lamar Wilkerson will almost assuredly get the same chance. Wilkerson is a NPOY candidate if he played on a contending team. I don’t think attracting guards and shooters is going to be an issue for DeVries going forward. But he needs to commit to a front court that can hold their own in this conference. I do believe he underestimated the size and strength of the bigs in this league.

I can't tell if this is real or not?

Who knows. He's currently being recruited over as we speak as Purdue just signed Alec Pierce younger brother who was Ivy League POY last year. Both shoot similar percentages, Dorn on better volume. Neither can really dribble. Give me the experienced guy with a year in DeVries system. If Benter is starting for Purdue next year I like our chances to at least split with them again.

Might be available in the portal after this year but hope we're looking at better players personally.

And was shooting 48% on volume and playing like one of the better players in the conference the two weeks prior. Obviously you want more consistency out of Dorn, but I don't think IU is in any position to tell a high volume shooter that hits at a decent clip that there isn't a spot for him next year. You want to start completely over?

Reneau is much better than serviceable. He’s averaging 19 a game and has been one of the most effective inside scorers in the country during his college tenure. We’re a top 20 team with Reneau.

He's 38% for the year on good volume. There's a role for that on every team.

I think Dorn could be a highly effective 3 and D guy with the right personnel around him. Pair him with 2 elite guards and a big that is a threat to score and the floor is spaced that much more. I have no qualms with him being the 3rd guard next year under those conditions. But those conditions need to be met for him to play a large role, otherwise he's fine being that 7th/8th man off the bench. I think Sisley has all the physical tools to be good in this league, he just needs confidence. Way too early to give up on him.

Our own worst enemy at times.

Disagree. Get three high level starters in the portal, one of them being an all-conference caliber player, and there's enough leftover between Sisley, Dorn, Miles and the three freshman to form a complimentary rotation.

Yes Hawthorne is at Kentucky redshirting this year and Odih is at St. John's where he elected not to redshirt and is playing sparingly.

Most of the players with eligibility left were tied to Chester Frazier. Frazier brought Sencire Harris and Amani Hansberry with him from Illinois. Hansberry followed Frazier to Virginia Tech and Harris ultimately ended up at Cincinnati where he's largely been a non-factor in a 7th-8th man role. Jonathan Powell is the one guy I fear we missed out on. He ended up at UNC. Wondering if Powell is regretting his decision as he has taken a major role reduction after being primed for a big sophomore jump.

Both Conerway and Enright would have looked much better with a legit post scorer. We don't draw any post double teams and conference opponents are very willing to blow up screens. Very tough to initiate offense when you can't play inside out.

Yep. DeVries has back to back years worth of tape of Javon Small and Lamar Wilkerson to show portal guards that should once again make his system an attractive destination. But it's imperative that he gets the necessary front court bodies that this years team lacked. His job likely depends on it.

Yeah, the staffs grave misevaluation of Bailey cost them this season. Bailey is essentially a 6'10 guard who was terrible defensively in the A10. Not sure what the staff saw in him? This is a 22-23 win team had the staff been able to retain a guy like Reneau who was ran out of town here.

DeVries is light years better than Archie at this stage and doing it with a much less talented roster. DeVries needs dudes, not hard to see. We’ll see where he stands next year without having to build a brand new roster on the fly.

Anywhere from 5-7 in portal seems apt. Need to find an all-conference caliber player like Wilkerson and then two other high level starters, preferably a PG and C.

You’re not going to get 7/8 elite players in the portal. No team is. You recruit your future and supplement your needs in the portal. Next years team needs 2 stud guards, 2 athletic bigs who can defend B10 caliber players, and a depth piece or two.