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Stephon Payne from Jacksonville was a name that was linked to IU. Cannot remember if he visited or not. Either way, ended up at Seton Hall and averages 7 point and 8 rebounds a game in a little over 20 minutes a game. Has one of the better defensive rebounding % in the country. Him and Alexis as a 40 minute platoon would have us in a much better spot and would still have money leftover after significantly overpaying for Bailey.

Sucks to him go but honestly the right move in his part. Plus this helps as a program going forward putting guys in the league. Myles Price and Ke’Shawn Williams both made NFL rosters last year and Sarratt and Cooper are almost assuredly day 2 picks.

My post was in reference to Ben McCollum who was the “big coach” in this years cycle. McCollum took less money to go to a program where he could build his team rather than taking a job with delusional fan expectations. But yes, you are right, no “big” or established coach is going to leave their current gig for Indiana. If this is universally accepted, I’m not sure why we are shouting for a year 1 guy to be fired less than 20 games in.

Tucker was extremely efficient last year and had a monster showing in the Battle of Atlantis. He isn’t a shell of himself this year.

You keep saying it's BS yet no big coach wants to touch the IU job with a 10 foot pole? Why is that? Why take $6 million at IU and be out in 3 years when I can go coach at Iowa for $4 million a year and build my program as I please and turn it into a 15-20 year career?

A complete reset of the basketball program is probably in the best interest long term. Been advocating that now for a few seasons.

Most understand that wanting to run off a coach every one or two years isn't any kind of recipe in finding sustained success. Doesn't matter how much money you spend if you're constantly turning over your staff, roster, etc....there is literally no culture to foster in that scenario.

And this is why this cycle we're in is no longer a cycle...

It's a chicken and an a egg scenario. DeVries knows and understands the pressure and expectations of this job. DeVries went with an experience-laden roster to try and win out of the gate. No problem with that, as the portal allows for it. But the roster was constructed horribly and that can be chalked up to a myriad of reasons. The practical medium would have been to recruit a mixture of upperclassmen and underclassmen that you could develop along the way. Not sure the delusions of this fanbase would allow for any kind of trial and error though. What I do know is that he needs to absolute kill it in the portal this year or he's a dead man walking before the season starts. Just how things are around here.

I think the NIL money was more than adequate. How it was allocated and roster construction far bigger issue. A front court that has no size, length, or athleticism is a recipe for disaster.

Or maybe IU was never their "dream job" to begin with and they either landed at better programs or were at better programs to begin with.

A dream job is a dream job lol. It's funny how so many people claim IU is the dream job of Stevens, Pearl, Drew, and Dusty and yet none of them actually want to coach at Indiana when push comes to shove. Amazing how that works.

Woody deserved a 4th year. It didn't work out. If IU was May's dream job, he'd be here today. He's not.

IU is an after thought to A+ coaches these days...if the last 25 years weren't evident enough.

BW is a job hopper who likes to build programs up but has a clear ceiling. He won't be at Maryland long, whether by choice or not. Brad Brownell is 100-34 on his last 3.5 years winning at a 75% clip despite being a career .600 coach. He clearly understands the portal, they lost everyone from a 28 win team last year and it looks like they haven't missed a beat.