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She played late in the game when benches were emptied.

Much much better. Granted Minnesota is garbage and unlike the Men's Side, the bottom of the Big Ten is quite a bit worse than the top. With that said I liked a lot of things from today regardless of the opponent, as we shot the ball better and made the easy layups with had been an issue. 7 of the first 8 games in the Big Ten are against the bottom feeders so we need to take care of business during this stretch. That said, 2 games from now we have a huge test @Maryland which will say a lot about whether we can win the conference.

Semi-related to game but apparently Iowa fans are as salty at Gary Barta for betraying his own school as we are at him as Hoosier fans. They think that by Barta keeping IU out over Iowa St (and there's strong evidence he lobbied for Iowa St. over IU) it hurts them a lot more since that is an in-state rival who could hurt them in recruiting a lot more than Hoosiers getting into New Years 6 from same conference. Also by not putting IU in, it knocked Iowa down a bowl and they would of been in Outback had he advocated harder for IU. Barta sounds like kind of an idiot in general. To stick it to a team in his own conference (IU) in a way that hurt the very school he is athletic director for in a couple ways says he is not good at his job. Be curious if Iowa people have more to say to him about this, as that will be a lot more powerful and hurtful than anything we can do to him as Hoosier fans.

Hypothetical question: How much did our COVID outbreak hurt us? Let's assume we don't have an outbreak (I am assuming PU does) and we are able to play against Iowa championship week? Do we get into a New Year's 6 by beating solely Iowa? Do we get in if we play both the Bucket Game and beat Iowa if neither IU or Purdue has outbreak? I don't want to hear we were screwed (which we were) and committee hates IU, but reasonably does an Iowa and/or Purdue win get us into New Year's 6 under same circumstances otherwise?

Fans will be in the stands by next fall. Schools will be requiring students to be vaccinated before returning to campus (IU has already hinted they will require it) and certainly athletes and staff will have it by then. Even Dr. Fauci said a few weeks ago he expects NFL stadiums to have fans by fall. You never know, but I'll be shocked if stadiums are not at least 50% capacity if not full by September. Vaccines will be widely available by early-mid summer and things will be returning to normal by fall. I am by no means a COIVD denier and have rarely left the house since the pandemic because I am scared of getting it, but if you don't think things will start to get back to normal by summer you are just being a pessimists for no reason.

This is where I kind of have a problem. I know college football and college basketball are different, but if the Big Ten is going to insist on keeping teams like Indiana, Maryland, Illinois etc. down in football, than teams like Rutgers, NW, PSU and teams need to be kept down by conference in basketball. I know what I am saying is not logical, but based on their system, if the Big Ten want to keep IU and bottom feeders down in football, it needs to do the same with the historic bottom feeders basketball. Instead, they have no problem with everyone being good in basketball, which while makes for a tough conference and allows teams to beat up on each other and drag down the better teams slightly. Obviously, I don't want anyone held down in basketball really, but if the Big Ten is not going to care about NW, PSU ETC. bubbling up in basketball, it needs to not sabotage IU and other bottom feeders in Football. Can't have it both ways but it appears that is what Big Ten wants.

We did exactly what we were supposed to do. I feel better that we took apart one of the worst teams in the Big Ten then I did last week when we lost to the Vols. Still anxious to see how we do against the better Big Ten team like Maryland, Iowa, NW, OSU and Michigan after the flop in non-conference. Good start though today!

Not a Chance Iowa St or Florida drops below us after their strong showings today. IU really should be mad at Big Ten. If they had played full non conference schedule or at least a couple more games and were 8-1 or 9-1 they probably would pass ISU and Fla but don't see a 6-1 IU team passing either. I expect it to be Citrus.

Not convinced. I still think ND gets in over a two loss Fla team. Especially, since they look like they are going to lose tonight.

Anyone want to argue Cincy belongs in playoffs? Committee has screwed a lot up, but appears they were right about CIncy being a massive fraud who had no business anywhere near final four regardless of if they eke this out. IU Cincy in Non-Conference early next year should be a great game and IU win would go long way towards getting us to New Years 6 next year with good Big Ten season.

Don't think those are related. It was being moved regardless and has been talked about for days. ND may very well make playoff but don't think thats connected.

Thats my thought. Really sucks committee is going to hose us but before season if you had said we would either be last team in New Year's 6 or first team out of it in Citrus Bowl people would of laughed. Either way best bowl since 1967.

In another blow to IU, Alabama is being given everything they can handle from Fla. Unless they drop ND out of playoff which I would not count on I would prepare to get a Citrus Bowl bid. Thats the reality at this point as things could not have gone worse for IU from Bowl perspective.

I updated my chart to reflect ND Clemson results on last page

I suppose a huge Notre Dame loss which looks possible could elevate A+M and knock Notre Dame to Orange Bowl which would do same trick to let IU in at 11 but would not count on it.

ND is in no matter what. Clemson as a 2 loss team will be passed by A+M for playoff spot.

You guys are way over thinking this. It is very simple and so far things have not gone well. #1 Alabama will make playoff regardless #2 ND should make playoff but could relegate to Orange Bowl with the big loss. This knocks UNC out of New Years 6 who is below us in rankings but in with ACC auto bid. Notre Dame would take this auto bid spot if knocked out of playoff, opening up an at large spot for IU even if they stay 11. #3 Clemson will make playoff regardless #4 OSU will make playoff regardless #5 TAMU is a New Years 6 Lock or will elevate to Notre Dame's playoff spot if committee decides to drop Notre Dame far enough #6 Iowa St would need to fall below IU in rankings and IU move to 10 to get at large bid if Notre Dame does not fall below 4 #7 Florida would need to lose Alabama and fall below IU in rankings and IU move to 10 to get at large bid if Notre Dame does not fall below 4 #8 Georgia is not playing and will get a New Years 6 spot #9 Cincinnati will get in to New Years 6 as highest ranked non power 5 team with win. With loss Coastal will get this auto bid #10 Oklahoma is into New Years 6 as Big 12 Champ #11 IU is first team out of New Years 6 if Notre Dame holds at no. 4 unless they jump Iowa St. or Florida in rankings tomorrow. If Notre Dame is relegated to Orange Bowl, IU will get an auto spot even if they stay at 11. No one below us will jump us since they either lost or are not playing. Also Oregon has Auto Bid to Fiesta Bowl as Pac 12 Champ despite their less than stellar record. Lots of unfairness but given rules and how things are playing out this is reality. I will update this as games end and more results known.

Big question going forward is can they be the 2015-2016 Men's Team who won Big Ten after horrible Non-Conference or the NW team the year after they made the tourney with same team and completely collapsed and were never the same. We are about to find out. Either way the last two games of non-conference were not acceptable on any level.

I hate to compare Moren to Tom Allen but he is meeting and exceeding the hype. I asked if Allen is Pat Fitzgerald or Chris Collins many times. Right now Allen looks like Fitzgerald and Moren is dangerously close to being Chris Collins. Team looks like they cannot handle the hype which took Collins down and this program is on the verge of doing that if something does not change fast.

UT pulled and we collapsed in last two minutes. Veteran team inexcusable. Dolson needs to call Moren into his office tomorrow and chew her out. When you are trying to build something you can't do this or you will quickly become Chris Collins. To have this veteran team look decomposed in a close game down stretch two games in a row is a HUGE problem. Time to read Moren the riot act. We know we were exposed before Big Ten play. If this team can't play well as favorites time to make some major changes needed as this program will fall apart fast just like NW men who could not handle winning. We are precariously close now to that. I would be very worried about this right now for program. Most disgusting performance I have seen in Moren era by far. Very worried.

I understand we may have been overhyped but to look WORSE is absolutely not OK. How many clunkers can we throw at home before someone realizes this program is not turning into the juggernaut we think. Heck right now they look like they could sink right back to bottom of conference.

Unreal that this has turned into men's team who can't hit shots. Going to be a very disappointing season if something does not change fast. This program now looks shaky.

Penn has looked terrific with some great steals and breakaways to get us back and game. Patberg and Holmes look about as bad as I have seen them which is why we are in this precarious position.

Timeout UT. Lead down to 1. Iu showing some fight but no excuse to be in this position.

Absolute red flags continue. Little better to close 3rd but still down 6. Still a huge issue against a middle pack SEC team. How do we compete with Maryland, MSU, OSU, Iowa and NW who all have length much like UT but are better. With Moran and this was true last yr also is we play our best on road but have tendency to throw up absolute stinkers sometimes at home and that does not seem to have been fixed.