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  Yes, and if this team was going to be the same team he's coaching next year, maybe I could get on board.  This isn't a 12U AAU team where you can potentially coach the same core of players for a few years as they grow and mature -- this an NCAA team and you'll have players coming-and-going every year for better or worse.  It's great to hear that Crean likes where this team is headed.  It's just too bad that since they lost this afternoon, he'll never get to coach "this team" again.  Where "this team" is headed is irrelevant.  You can have a normal attrition of players in a high-major program without feeling like you start every single November in a "rebuilding" phase and I feel like that's the story of IUBB over the past couple of years.  

I'm just saying that if he WAS going to talk smack about Crean, I'm not surprised that he wouldn't do so to his fiancée's cousin's husband who obviously doesn't have a problem posting what he hears on a free internet message board (not that I disapprove of that). This is why some of the best sources out there are those who choose to be anonymous.

Maybe because anything else would have ended up right here for the rest of the world to read?

Absolutely believe it. There were double standards for conduct and the players knew (and told the freshmen like Yogi and Jeremy and Hanner) that Crean wasn't serious about discipline. Those players were told by some upperclassmen that stuff like drinking and cheating and smoking pot wasn't a big deal around there because Crean would yell and get mad and make them run, but that was it. That is not a message your upperclassmen vocalize to incoming freshmen when they see their head coach as a person worthy of respect.

  I think there are two sides to that coin -- is keeping Crean going to sit well with recruits' parents with all of this coming out?  I think we may be at the six-of-one, half-a-dozen-of-the-other point before too long if we're not there already.

  I'm sorry, but when JaQuan Lyle seems to be the only person coming forward as your character reference?!? :umbrage: