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I didn't count that because he didn't finish the game and had 1 touchdown. But I can see the argument to be made

This is Sudfeld's last chance at a signature win during his collegiate career. Let that sink in.    I fully expect Michigan to roll, Harbaugh is on another level

The logic behind AK's post is that Thon doesn't want to be a traditional big. By adding a second legitimate front court player, Thon can play more on the perimeter

This may be an interesting point to credit Crean's theory of offer first, ask questions later philosophy. By offering early and often,are you more likely to be considered to have been "there from the beginning," with more recruits? That is a big factor for a lot of kids. Of course, there also has to be open communication after and before the offer, certainly more of a time commitment than our coaches have. But maybe this approach does have some merit to it.    Just food for thought...

Honestly, we have traded punches with Iowa and OSU. Michigan State thoroughly overwhelmed us, for a number of reasons. Those teams are superior.    In my very uneducated opinion, it seems to me that IU is a team that always plays to the level of its competition. It doesn't have the killer instinct yet. Thats not something they've embodied to this point. The defense that kept IU in the game against OSU isn't the same defense that collapsed in the fourth quarter against Rutgers.   I think its mostly a mental issue. Maybe thats why the coaches have harped so hard this year on preparation. They aren't consistent and thats a momentum killer. Those lapses are easier to overcome against the likes of Wake Forest than Iowa.    My real point of intrigue at this rate is whether the team, knowing the season and possibly their coaches jobs are on the line, will find the ability to dig deep and compete with Michigan and beat Purdue and Maryland. Lets see them bring the intensity/mental fortitude necessary.   I don't think this team has given up. I do think they have to get over the idea that they don't belong on the same field as elite teams. They need to focus on playing the guy across the line from them and not worry about "its Indiana vs PSU/OSU/MSU/Iowa, we don't stand a chance"   ...Sorry if that doesn't really answer you or is really vague. Its been a long day

I think the plan for OG is to transition into a wing. Still, more front court depth than we've had in a while as OG could obviously offer some play there

Fantastic pick up. Can't be understated. Goes a loooong way in making us more competitive come 2016.    Pull Brown/Alkins/Thon in the spring and we can really get some momentum rolling for the future

This is a really interesting point. Marcus Oliver said after Iowa he thought some of the younger guys may be intimidated by playing the bigger B10 teams. The fact that the game is usually competitive through three quarters though makes me think it could be physical. It seems like we get punched in the mouth against the big guys and fold, whereas we fought back against the OOC teams.    Granted, theres something to be said about play calling. The fault doesn't all lay there though IMO. Theres only so much you can do when your offense can become one dimensional.    Its been an interesting season of IUFB. I think they can still finish strong and have one of the best seasons in recent history.

I wasn't impressed at first with their display against Iowa. But I think they turned it on and made a few adjustments and were competitive. Ironically the passing game was what did them in IMO. All it takes is a complete effort, this team has talent. If they're hanging in there with top 10 teams, the challenge is in the coaches getting the same effort from them against teams like Rutgers/Maryland/Purdue. These players need to find their motivation and not let go

Basketball coach Tom Crean used the phrase at his introductory press conference and it’s still referenced by fans today. “It’s Indiana,” is a standard on the hardwood while for football, it’s more of an explanation for poor play. Another week, another loss for Indiana football.   It is a familiar story for a program that has struggled to compete for as long as fans can remember. Maybe this season, the sting is a bit more intense because of the optimism that seemed well founded based on a perfect out of conference start. After a five game skid, things are back to how they used to be for the Hoosier football team. Did anybody ever really expect different? After all, like senior quarterback Nate Sudfeld said after their loss to Iowa, “It’s Indiana.”   Basketball coach Tom Crean used the phrase at his introductory press conference and it’s still referenced by fans today. “It’s Indiana,” is a standard on the hardwood while for football, it’s more of an explanation for poor play.   This team was supposed to be the one that changed that. This wasn’t going to be the same old IU football team. It’s Sudfeld’s senior year. They added a talented running back transfer in Jordan Howard. It’s the second year of a new defensive system. The players know the expectations they had for this year. And they know they face coming up short of those goals if something doesn’t change.   “We still have goals to achieve,” senior tackle Jason Spriggs said. “You’re playing for your brothers, for your teammates.”   One of those goals has to bowling. To be fair, there is still reason for optimism about this season. In every game except for Penn State, the Hoosiers have entered the fourth quarter with a chance to win. That includes games against undefeated teams like Ohio State and Iowa as well as Michigan State. It also includes a historic defensive collapse at home against Rutgers.   At this level of football, moral victories are nice but they’re just that- nice. Not the objective. The objective for this squad is to be the first IU football team to go bowling since 2007. The team has put themselves in position to do that with only one more win thanks to their APR score, but the easiest road to a bowl is to win two of their next three games against Michigan, Maryland and Purdue.   “It’s frustrating because we know what we are capable of and we get the loss then watch film and realize one or two mistakes and (if they were avoided) it’s a completely different game,” Spriggs said. “It comes down to a series or a play where we didn’t focus or whatever it is and the momentum changes.”   The momentum for the last five games has been shifted against Indiana whereas in the first four games, the breaks went their way. Linebacker Marcus Oliver said after the Iowa loss that the first four games of the season the team expected to win and that is something they are trying to get back to.   Does that mean Indiana players thought they would lose once Big Ten play began? Probably not. But in the face of adversity, the team has folded in the last five games. Nobody bats an eye because “it’s Indiana,” may as well be a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.   That is probably only the case for someone who sees scores on an ESPN ticker. Those watching the product on the field know this Indiana team has competed with top 10 teams. In their most recent game against No. 8 Iowa, the team did a few things well.   “It gave us some confidence,” Spriggs said of the offensive line’s run blocking. “We finally got to the point where we were running the ball and blocking like we know we can.”   Spriggs and his unit knows they are capable of getting the best of one of the nation’s best run defenses. If the passing game fell a bit more in Indiana’s favor, the outcome of that game may have been different. The challenge is consistently bringing that performance through four quarters over an entire season. This team has to finish a ball game the way they start.   The Hoosiers’ next chance to do so is against No. 15 Michigan when they come to Memorial Stadium on November 14th.   “They’re going to play hard, they’re very physical, a lot like Iowa,” Spriggs said. “They’re going to try to play upfield, we’ve seen quite a bit (of film) and we’ve got our gameplan.”   This is the last chance for IU to get a signature win this season. Spriggs said it would be a statement win. At this point of the season, as long as they bring a complete effort against Maryland and Purdue, this Indiana team has shown they have the talent to win and get to 6-6. That is in itself a huge feat for this program.   The fact is, Indiana may or may not beat Michigan. If it does, fans may decide that this five game losing streak wasn’t as bad as it seemed.   If it doesn't, well, it’s Indiana. [url=https://btownbanners.com/page/index.html/_/football/news-notes/breaking-the-mold-of-iu-football-r248]Click here to view the article[/url]

Plus, who knows how much of this is due to a nagging knee

I also think its key to point out that guys like Troy and JBJ sometimes take defensive plays off or use them as an opportunity to rest. They're so active on offense, they need time to catch their breath but don't want to come out of the game. The difference between players like them who are lauded for their defense like Kobe and ones who are looked at as a liability like Carmelo is knowing how and when to choose what plays to take off IMO.    I think when playing to his full capability, Troy can be good defensively especially with his length. I think he was pretty good on defense in the first scrimmage but I didn't catch the second. JBJ, I'm not sure I've seen that defensive ability from yet

Beat me to it, not a great thing to hear

Brody Miller is the IDS Sports Editor and very involved. I'm sure nothing will come of it nor am I convinced anything really should. He just highlighted the most interesting part of the quote, meaning didn't really change.    What an awful thing for your quarterback, a team leader, a senior to say. IMO with a question like that the right answer is that you feel pressure and are frustrated. If you're going to deny it, definitely don't drag your school's name through the mud. Uhhh... really Suds? 

Still not a great quote IMO

Osterman with the full quote:   Zach Osterman ‏@ZachOsterman  12m 12 minutes ago Nate Sudfeld on whether IU is starting to feel pressure (two-part quote coming) ... (1/3) #iufb   Zach Osterman ‏@ZachOsterman  12m 12 minutes ago "Not at all. It’s Indiana. Nobody really expects much of us. We’re holding each other accountable as brothers and ..." (2/3) #iufb   Zach Osterman ‏@ZachOsterman  12m 12 minutes ago "... really trying to do a lot of things to finish off the season." (3/3) #iufb

To me this game will say a lot about if Wilson should be back. Good coaches will have their team ready for a game like this. We know we have what it takes to hang with a team of this caliber, it's a matter of finding that consistency the coaches were preaching

The well coached teams in this country come out of their bye weeks ready to go. Wilson has said there's been some of the best practices this season had in the past two weeks I believe. The game sets up nicely as a trap, Iowa is heading into the easy stretch of their schedule and we are healthy with two weeks of preparation under our belt. We know this team has it in them. They took OSU to the wire and played about 3/4 of a game close with MSU. They have to take the next step and play a whole game.

The Big Ten has three unbeaten teams: nationally top ranked Ohio State, No. 6 Michigan State, and No. 10 Iowa. The Hoosiers have played both the Buckeyes and Spartans and were able to put a scare into them. As the team gears up for its Saturday nationally televised game where its plays host to the Hawkeyes, it hopes to take the next step and earn its first win since September. “In this league it's week in and week out, it's good D-linemen, good defenses, so every week is a challenge,” offensive line coach Greg Frey said. “You can’t rest on your laurels so it is a question of getting that consistency.”   Indiana has certainly found consistency this year, but not necessarily the type fans are looking for. When the season started, the Hoosiers were consistent in winning close games and going 4-0. Two more wins looked like an absolute certainty, but then IU reversed course and started being consistently bad like the teams of old. Sitting at .500 after a four game losing streak, the Hoosiers are at a crossroads in their season. Facing the 10th best team in the country means Indiana has an uphill battle to recovery.   The game pits a potent Indiana offensive attack against the staunch Iowa defense. The Hoosiers had their bye last week, giving them plenty of time to prepare for an Iowa team that boasts the ninth ranked adjusted for opponent defense according to the S&P+ rankings. They lead the conference in forced turnovers, allow a miniscule 85.8 yards per game, have only given up a stingy 4.36 yards per play. The numbers make it clear that IU has a clear challenge in front of them.   The Indiana running offense may be stifled but passing may not be any easier as the Hawkeyes rank fifth in the conference for pass defense efficiency and have Desmond King, who leads the country with seven interceptions.   “They’re a great team as a whole on offense and defense. That is why they’re ranked number ten,” cornerback Rashard Fant said. “They just play great team ball.”   Fant is one of the leaders on a defense that has struggled with the consistency coaches are seeking. While Iowa’s offense isn’t necessarily elite, they are more explosive than in years past as they have the eleventh most plays for 40 or more yards this season. To contain that type of production, Fant says Indiana players must rely on their competitive spirit.   “You have to compete, you’re getting the opportunity to compete with a great player across from you … you have to trust your technique, the defensive scheme, and trust the other ten guys on the field.”   The young Indiana defense has had some of the most painful growing pains in program history including giving up 22 points in the fourth quarter to Rutgers. That robbed the team of a fifth win, which may be all IU needs to go bowling if there are not enough 6-6 teams- a real possibility. While a fifth win and their APR score may be enough for the Hoosiers to go bowling, they want to earn a spot thanks to their play.   “All you can ask from your individuals is that they battle as hard as they can,” Frey said. “(Players competing) Is what I care about.”   Indiana has competed this season against the two undefeated teams they have already played. The team is aware of the physicality and effort they need to bring to play in games like these. They hung with Michigan State and they almost knocked off Ohio State. If they are able to finally put it together and find the consistency the coaching staff has preached, they have the ability to save this season.   Though fan base excitement may have shifted to the hardwood, there is plenty left to play for on the gridiron. Head coach Kevin Wilson’s contract situation is likely going to be evaluated in the offseason and a good showing down the stretch will probably earn him an extension. Indiana can finish the season strong and make good on all the potential fans saw earlier in the season or flounder and head into the offseason with a cloud of uncertainty over their head. [url=https://btownbanners.com/page/index.html/_/football/news-notes/iowa-preview-r243]Click here to view the article[/url]

Just thought you'd like to see something positive about iubb

How bout that Ottawa game?

Some kids may like the idea of writing the history book at Miss St while playing for a player's coach in Howland and getting NBA ready.    Fan support and facilities may be low priorities for them.    The recruiting failure isn't IMO that we are losing recruits to Miss St. The whole college admissions process is very subjective. The failure is that we don't really have a next move if we lose kids like Davis or Brown.*     *I have no idea what our plan B may be. I have no idea how this will shake out. I'm not going to lose sleep over being made to look pedestrian by a non bball school. What concerns me is the lack of prospects on the horizon

If that's the case, let's hope we lock him up before he visits MSU