Feathery

Musselman because he is more proven as a coach. An assistant and head coach in the NBA. I love Oats but his new contract make him untouchable, so Musselman. Plus IU needs someone who is experienced and Musselman has that.

I’d support Fife, like I would anyone for a few years. But I agree, the next coach needs Power 5 coaching experience. Fife should go get the Minnesota job or one like it for his first P5 gig.

Man, whatever happened to that guy?

Yup. Such is the life of a coach. It’s win or go home. The guy making millions is always going to be the guy responsible for the losing over the 18-22 year old young men.

Had this debate on another board with someone. I had the same feeling at the initial press conference. The stage was too big and he didn’t realize it until he got here. It was the oh shite moment for Archie.

The opposite? Sounds like you agree it hasn’t been good enough. If a recruit is a bust, then that’s on the coach for misidentification or lack of player development.

I think he will look for his own way out and take another job. He and Dolson are on the same page. At that point Dolson knows exactly what the reduced buyout is. Mid major positions should be coming open next week.

Fair enough. I can’t say I agree. He may know X’s and O’s to a degree but he doesn’t know roster construction or how to build for the modem game. Recruiting/roster construction is his biggest issue and it hasn’t been fixed for 4 years.

I’m sure I missed it. But what has Archie accomplished at IU that makes you a fan of his? I’m sure he is a great person but that’s not worthy of being a fan of him keeping his job.

Dane Fife. Lol

I like this thinking. I also think if you get a guy like Drew or Beard you get some buzz for transfers. Especially if they can make a run this season and it’s fresh in players minds. Say Baylor makes an elite 8 or Final Four and Drew leaves for IU, players will take notice when he calls. Next year can be a good year for IU basketball but it won’t be staying with Archie, 4 years of poor play and it’s tough to sell to a player to come in who wants to win.

I’m not a fan of booing myself. I just won’t show up. I haven’t shown up in 5 years. I will continue to not show up until there looks to be tangible change for the better. My wife asks me every year if we want to get tickets and I tell her no. I think more and more people are saying no as seen by so many empty seats seen on tv prior to the pandemic. I remember Assembly Hall being packed. I remember going to watch IU play a ranked Iowa and the arena was only 3/4 full, and that was during the Crean era towards the end. I see people posting pics from the Miller era of fan attendance and it’s been poor. It will only get worse. I know the Big Ten network payout is great, but the lost revenue and fan apathy needs to be addressed. That’s why there needs to be a change. And the change has to be someone with some personality to be vocal and in the media to get butts back in the seats and the product has to be entertaining. Archie ball is boring to me. AND they have to win. It’s not an easy fix which is why IU has to get an established coach and can’t go with a mid-major coach or assistant.

I’m not an IU football fan. But the OSU, PSU, UM fans respect IU but see it as a one year spike. Until it’s multiple years above a PSU and UM in a row, I wouldn’t count on IUFB being a power and a reason to put basketball on the back burner. IU basketball is king not football. edit: if they are thinking football will be bringing in revenue, then great. There shouldn’t be an issue to making basketball better too.

The good of the organization fiscally and culturally would be to move on. Assembly Hall will be 25-50% full next year. There will be tons of lost revenue on tickets, concessions, and apparel. The fans that do show up will be angry and booing. Fire Archie signs will be more prevalent across campus.

What’s football success? I believe the roster loses a lot going into next season. 6 or 7 wins? IU is not a football school and recruiting is routinely in the bottom 4 of the conference. IU is probably back to 4th in the Big East next season.

His source is probably Archie or Sean Miller. His relationship with the Miller’s goes back to Sean coaching at Xavier and Snow being around that program. So take it with a grain of salt since his story will be coming from their camp.

Lol. I’ll give any new coach a chance. Can’t say I’m a Alford supporter per se. but you took the top coaches off the table. I’ll roll with a guy who has been successful and has a track record. IU absolutely can’t go with an up and comer again because the risk is too great. If IU basketball gets this hire wrong and kiss the program goodbye. It’s on life support and I think the next coach comes from the list you took off the table or someone of that caliber. But in your scenario, Alford gets the nod.

Think it could be a situation where he lets Archie try to find a job because our next guy is coaching in the tournament. No need to cause a distraction for the new guy trying to coach his team to tournament success. I can see this dragging out for a few weeks.

Honestly, if all my top choices are off the table and it’s a bunch decent coaches left I go with the former player in Alford. It buys you time with the university, former players, and a lot of the old guard boosters.

All a consideration but not a dealbreaker. I’ve known people who have had kids in Texas and lived in other states because of work. They would fly their kids to them bi-weekly or would go see them on their weekends. It’s very doable, especially with a multi-million dollar salary Beard would be on. Plus Texas is a huge state. Are his kids in Lubbock with him? Or are they in Houston? Because Lubbock to Houston is like living in a different state in that it wouldn’t be a weekend trip to see the kids via car. It would be a flight just like living out of state.

I think if the offer is right, I could see him making the move unless he wants to try and hold out for a Duke UNC move in a few years. I don’t think he will be a Texas Tech lifer.

Chris Beard, his buyout is $3 million. That’s a realistic number fo IU pay and then give the necessary salary to get him here.

I watched the first half from the bar in Buffalo Wild Wings. Place was packed, and I was hearing equal cheering for both IU and Rutgers. I assumed it was Purdue fans. When I got up from the bar rail to leave at halftime it was a sea of red. All those Rutgers cheers were actually IU fans rooting for a loss so the hope of a new coach could happen. Then I hear the booing on TV when I get home. It’s clearly time to make a change. The atmosphere is too toxic to keep Archie. I wish he would have been spectacular, but he hasn’t even been average.

Sounds positive if they are on the same page. Can’t have a divided house.

Crean thought the same of Kyle Guy, didn’t turn out well for him either.