Golfman25

How do you know it wasn’t true? Just Because it didn’t happen, doesn’t mean that’s what players weren’t thunking. That word got our somehow, and I’m guessing it wasn’t some drunk dude at Kilroys. Situations are fluid and people change their minds frequently. I myself don’t like the “true fan” wedge he went with and lack of any self reflection and accountability. We’ll see if that changes.

You must not be a “true fan.” :)

I can’t wait to see the game posts next November. One way or the other there is going to be a lot of I told you so’s. :)

And ended up getting blown out of the gym. May have better guards, but they haven’t played in Mike Woodson’s system. Has he fixed the 3 point defense? If we continue to trade 2 for 3 it’s going to be a long year. We still going to pound the ball inside with 2 bigs, or open up the lane to give the new guards room to work? Etc. Etc.

QBs are typically picked sooner than they should be because of the desperate need to find good ones. If the kid works out they may look like geniuses.

While they may have over paid Cousins, drafting Penix isn't that bad of an idea. Give's him a year or 2 get the NFL under his belt. No different than Rodgers/Favre at Green Bay. Cousins is old and damaged goods -- may not make it thru the next two seasons anyway. My guess is they didn't think Penix would be there and when he was, it's a pick they had to make regardless of a signed FA QB. Cousins will need to step up or shut up.

I suppose you have to compartmentalize expectations -- with and without Woodson? In my mind, Woodson has nothing do to with expectations. He either gets it done or doesn't. He has all the pieces in place for a really good team -- Big10 Champs, Sweet 16/Elite 8, etc. If he can't do it, then yes time to move on (as this is the Fire Mike Woodson thread).

Which game? :)

Nothing like bringing up posts fro a few days ago to complain. But to answer your question, 6.

Yep. You have to go a bit deeper in the rankings to get programs who brought in 3 top players. Woodson did good, portal wise.

Dude, I posited as a "what if." You think it's far-fetched. I don't.

Sure but that was before the unlimited transfer rules. Guys just looking for checks aren't necessarily the best "team players."

Yeah, that's the thing. Seems some are giving "credit" to Mike Woodson and lowering their "expectations" accordingly. I myself am raising expectations -- he either meets them or not.

So you expect that all to happen?

I am not laughing at anybody. But it's split personality -- optimist vs. pessimist. Reasons for optimism: 1) The fact is we have a top, if not the top, portal class. 2) The fact is we have 3 players ranked within the top 25 of portal players (a rarity in and of itself). 3) The "core" of Gallo, Malik, MM return. 4) Replaced a de-comitted 5* with another 5*. So, giving Woodson all the benefit of the doubt, that is what my expectations are based on. Those are all facts and pieces in place. Is that not a Big10 Championship team? As I asked above, who beats us? But then the pessimism: 1) Guards have to make the jump to 35%+ from 3. 2) Have we solved the 3-point defensive problems? Is that personnel or systemic? 3) Does the middle get clogged up with Malik and Ballo (a la Race and Trace), not giving the new dynamic guards driving lanes? 4) Can this new and young team learn to play together and gel in the short time they have before the season starts? 5) Will the Woodson offensive/defensive systems really work at the college level? 6) Why did we have a de-commit -- Is there an underlying problem? 7) Are some of these dudes just here to get paid, or will they give it their all to represent the name on the front? These are unknowns right now. If the answers to these are positive, then the sky is the limit. We should be unstoppable, should we not? So why aren't we Big10 Champions?

Actually, last time was 2015-16. Crean won more than 23 games 3 times -- 27 (2011-12), 29 (2012-13) and 27 (2015-16). Each time made the sweet 16. Twice won the big10 championship. With this portal haul, are we not at least at that level? If not, what's it going to take?

$6,000,000 of Cook/Simon money, and we are good with something less than the Big10 Championship? How far the mighty have fallen. Who can beat us? Are we still going to struggle with NW, Wis, Nebraska? An Edeyless Purdue? OSU and Mich in rebuild mode? The Pac teams? Are we just running in place?

Can't make the bar higher than the hump. :)

National Championship Game :)

Because I am interested in what the team will look like roster wise. And I have given Woodson credit for doing something in the portal not many teams have done. I have also said I am cautiously optimistic. We have a roster of players who need to make some jumps. I’m just holding out for actual results before I’m painting my face.

Nice try.

Just skip right by it if it bothers you. This is the fire mike woodson thread.

Wrong forum. We can only talk negative about Mike Woodson and him being fired here. :)

Don't worry. Woody's got this.

First, in line with the new forum rules, this thread is about the transfer portal. So what is a HS recruiting tweet doing here? Second, if anyone who thinks a few meetings with some in state dudes means we have the state locked up, they're delusional. We'll have the state locked up when they are committed. But yeah, lets go. We're back baby. Woody's cooking.