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This is more correct.

Stone being out for any reason for one is not factored into KenPom. He does not factor in suspensions for one game, nor injuries, or emotional effect. http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/ratings_explanation

Sounds like a mild sprain just from the random comments I have seen. I wouldn't be surprised if his next game is against Maryland. My speculation there.

Gotcha. Yeah I agree with that!

I actually disagree. He is too boom or bust for me. Perfect example is MSU. That second half though...

I hate we don't have a killer instinct. We just go in stall ball mode. I get us doing that up 15 with 2 or even 3 to play. We were what like 6 or 7 out changing the tempo? That's what annoys me with Crean.

Lol up vote for that!

Yes because that is the go to for EVERYONE... Also I have posted a couple things you didn't seem to gather anything from other than me defending him because he is a mod...

Dude why does EVERYTHING go back to being about a mod???? I am as annoyed with that than anything on this board?

I think there was both good and bad. He adjusted into the double team down low that Purdue had trouble with. I think that was really the move of the game. Clock or game management in the last 7:00 of the game left a lot to be desired.

Yogi said during his post game he thought he was fine but next man up until he is back.

You guys know the reason we made this "safe haven" was due to firing Crean coming up in every thread. We could have a thread on puppies and it would evolve into firing Crean. That said when this was created it was for back and forth. It wasn't so one side could post viewpoints without retort. If you guys don't want discussion and just want to blog your feelings then we need to change the title. What you guys want is a blog to post your feelings and then only want people that agree with you posting in here. That is not what this is about. I actually agree with some of the issues Brass posted, but at the same time you don't want anything up for discussion. I am surprised that you guys are surprised after beating PU people would question this being the first place to post. What do you guys really want?

I think most back and forth in threads start that way. We just need to rename the thread to give you guys what you want.

I hope OG then move everyone up a spot.

Why yes they are... They will never win a title.

Yep. After PSU that is a must. After today I still expect 14 wins. I said that would make me happy and I am sticking with that.

I agree. It wasn't really aimed at anyone in particular. I could have hit reply, but used to quoting.

Ha you and me both man. My wife kept walking by knowing we were up big. I told her I figured we would let them get to 6-8. Didn't figure it would get that low. It would have been better if we were up 10 the whole game. When we are up big we play slow. That's not what we are.

Yeah. I get that. I just think a lot of people have just come to expect that there are some that just don't like our coach and have no chance of being happy. They are perplexed by that. I hope you guys can see that too in a thread like this after a win over that team. If you guys don't want discussion or questioning after wins like this we need to relabel the thread into something more appropriate. "We don't want to discuss we just aren't happy with the state of our program no matter what." I think that would be more appropriate if you guys don't want posters questioning why you choose to come here first after that win.

Over the top maybe just a tad? They started hitting shots down the stretch they weren't hitting all game. We act like a timeout will magically cure all. Then in the same breath constantly complain about how nothing changes coming out of a timeout. I just don't know what this dude can do in some of your eyes to be content. There is no coach in America that will live up to your standards. That's fine. I am just honestly flabbergasted by the complaints after a win like this that is such a bad matchup. The argument constantly shifts onto something else then you guys pounce like we have lost 5 in a row. Either way it's a discussion I guess...

For me I see this kind of a statement a lot. I understand where you are coming from, but we weren't away from AH. Hard to say how the game starts out anywhere away from home. We could say we lose that game if we turn the ball over more than 4 times. Every game is full of ifs. That's why I don't like blaming refs and stuff like that. Every game has it's ifs. We won. On to the next. We need to come out focused.

POTFB!!!

First IU game for the boy! Middle finger to PU!

0 turnovers wow