Str8Hoosiers

VERY SORRY for the delay in getting this posted.... it has been a hectic week.

How does this work? Each week I will create Prediction League threads for the weeks game(s). It's a simple concept: Each week you start with 100 points (only if a prediction is made, otherwise 0 points for the week) +25 PTs if you guess the winner -25 PTs if you pick the loser +10 PTs if guess IU score correctly +10 PTs if guess Opponent score correct -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of IU (over/under doesn't matter) -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of opponent (over/under doesn't matter) *** Reminder if you post a prediction and want to change it, please just POST a NEW Prediction, do not edit a prior post as I may miss those edits. The person with the most points (MINUS 2 LOWEST GAMES) at the end of the season wins.

We are now 4 weeks in and here are the standings for the 2018 Season. **** Please note ONLY 1 score is currently being dropped, I will start dropping the 2 lowest after next week **** CURRENT GAME - Michigan State OVERALL RANK Entry Name Score RANK Entry Name Score 1 LamarCheeks 116 1 ThompsonHoosier 365 2 mdn82 116 2 LamarCheeks 346 3 biteoftheapple 116 3 lucel15 346 4 HoosierAloha 115 4 Str8Hoosiers 345 5 rcs29 115 5 HoosierAloha 344 6 Str8Hoosiers 114 6 IUc2016 343 7 IUsafety 114 7 IUsafety 342 8 Class of '66 Old Fart 114 8 WayneFleekHoosier 341 9 WayneFleekHoosier 113 9 mdn82 341 10 Josh 112 10 LIHoosier 341 11 323SGrant 112 11 MemphisHoosier 338 12 JHoosier914 106 12 jmsgws 336 13 CrossboneIU22 60 13 mamasa 334 14 jbell833 60 14 johnsoniu 334 15 HoosierRobbie 59 15 biteoftheapple 332 16 The Ola Depot 58 16 KDB 332 17 LIHoosier 58 17 JHoosier914 331 18 mamasa 58 18 The Ola Depot 330 19 VPC 58 19 RBB89 329 20 Napleshoosier 58 20 VPC 327 21 KDB 58 21 CrossboneIU22 324 22 VO5 58 22 Class of '66 Old Fart 324 23 johnsoniu 57 23 jbell833 323 24 ThompsonHoosier 57 24 fwgreenway 320 25 Old Friend 57 25 Josh 316 26 Alaska Hoosier 57 26 thebigweave 315 27 MemphisHoosier 56 27 NaturalHoosier 312 28 NaturalHoosier 55 28 HoosierRobbie 306 29 jmsgws 54 29 e_powe11 303 30 RBB89 54 30 Old Friend 297 31 IUc2016 54 31 Napleshoosier 276 32 BabyJandJDaddy 53 32 rcs29 265 33 e_powe11 51 33 VO5 263 34 thebigweave 51 34 HOOsier Thunder 184 35 lucel15 50 35 Alaska Hoosier 174 36 HOOsier Thunder 0 36 Fkfootball1 117 37 fwgreenway 0 37 Dalton26 114 38 Defenserocks28 0 38 323SGrant 112 39 Fkfootball1 0 39 coonhounds 107 40 Chris007 0 40 Defenserocks28 101 41 Dalton26 0 41 Chris007 95 42 coonhounds 0 42 BabyJandJDaddy 53 43 DChoosier 0 43 DChoosier 46

How does this work? Each week I will create Prediction League threads for the weeks game(s). It's a simple concept: Each week you start with 100 points (only if a prediction is made, otherwise 0 points for the week) +25 PTs if you guess the winner -25 PTs if you pick the loser +10 PTs if guess IU score correctly +10 PTs if guess Opponent score correct -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of IU (over/under doesn't matter) -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of opponent (over/under doesn't matter) *** Reminder if you post a prediction and want to change it, please just POST a NEW Prediction, do not edit a prior post as I may miss those edits. The person with the most points (MINUS 2 LOWEST GAMES) at the end of the season wins.

I just can't see the light yet..... IU 27 MSU 30

How does this work? Each week I will create Prediction League threads for the weeks game(s). It's a simple concept: Each week you start with 100 points (only if a prediction is made, otherwise 0 points for the week) +25 PTs if you guess the winner -25 PTs if you pick the loser +10 PTs if guess IU score correctly +10 PTs if guess Opponent score correct -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of IU (over/under doesn't matter) -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of opponent (over/under doesn't matter) *** Reminder if you post a prediction and want to change it, please just POST a NEW Prediction, do not edit a prior post as I may miss those edits. The person with the most points (MINUS 2 LOWEST GAMES) at the end of the season wins.

We are now 3 weeks in and here are the standings for the 2018 Season. **** Please note low scores are not yet dropped **** Congrats to @CrossboneIU22, @jmsgws, & @lucel15 for correctly predicting IU's final Score. CURRENT GAME - Ball State OVERALL RANK Entry Name Score RANK Entry Name Score 1 lucel15 132 1 ThompsonHoosier 365 2 jmsgws 117 2 lucel15 346 3 RBB89 116 3 IUc2016 343 4 The Ola Depot 114 4 LIHoosier 341 5 CrossboneIU22 114 5 MemphisHoosier 338 6 IUc2016 113 6 IUsafety 336 7 LIHoosier 112 7 jmsgws 336 8 Str8Hoosiers 111 8 WayneFleekHoosier 335 9 JHoosier914 111 9 LamarCheeks 334 10 mamasa 111 10 johnsoniu 334 11 johnsoniu 111 11 mamasa 334 12 LamarCheeks 111 12 HoosierAloha 333 13 e_powe11 111 13 KDB 332 14 VPC 110 14 mdn82 332 15 jbell833 110 15 Str8Hoosiers 331 16 NaturalHoosier 110 16 The Ola Depot 330 17 MemphisHoosier 108 17 RBB89 329 18 WayneFleekHoosier 108 18 JHoosier914 328 19 IUsafety 108 19 VPC 327 20 mdn82 108 20 CrossboneIU22 324 21 biteoftheapple 107 21 jbell833 323 22 Napleshoosier 107 22 fwgreenway 320 23 HoosierRobbie 107 23 thebigweave 315 24 KDB 106 24 biteoftheapple 312 25 ThompsonHoosier 104 25 NaturalHoosier 312 26 HoosierAloha 104 26 HoosierRobbie 306 27 HOOsier Thunder 104 27 e_powe11 303 28 fwgreenway 102 28 Josh 299 29 Old Friend 101 29 Old Friend 297 30 Josh 101 30 Napleshoosier 276 31 Defenserocks28 101 31 Class of '66 Old Fart 256 32 Class of '66 Old Fart 98 32 VO5 205 33 thebigweave 94 33 HOOsier Thunder 184 34 rcs29 41 34 rcs29 150 35 Fkfootball1 0 35 Alaska Hoosier 117 36 VO5 0 36 Fkfootball1 117 37 Chris007 0 37 Dalton26 114 38 Alaska Hoosier 0 38 coonhounds 107 39 Dalton26 0 39 Defenserocks28 101 40 coonhounds 0 40 Chris007 95 41 DChoosier 0 41 DChoosier 46

@HoosierAloha got his pick to me prior to the game starting but the thread had already locked (I may have had it lock a few minutes early on accident).. Just want complete transparency... His prediction is: IU 31 Ball State 24

IU 34 BS 20

After 2 weeks here are the standings for the 2018 Season. **** Please note low scores are not yet dropped **** Congrats to @ThompsonHoosier for the PERFECT prediction!!!! Also congrats to @LIHoosier & @HOOsier Thunder for correctly predicting IU's final Score. CURRENT GAME - Virginia OVERALL RANK Entry Name Score RANK Entry Name Score 1 ThompsonHoosier 145 1 ThompsonHoosier 261 2 LIHoosier 132 2 IUc2016 230 3 KDB 122 3 MemphisHoosier 230 4 MemphisHoosier 120 4 HoosierAloha 229 5 WayneFleekHoosier 120 5 LIHoosier 229 6 Str8Hoosiers 120 6 IUsafety 228 7 IUsafety 117 7 WayneFleekHoosier 227 8 Fkfootball1 117 8 KDB 226 9 fwgreenway 114 9 mdn82 224 10 JHoosier914 114 10 LamarCheeks 223 11 HoosierAloha 112 11 johnsoniu 223 12 mamasa 112 12 mamasa 223 13 Class of '66 Old Fart 112 13 thebigweave 221 14 IUc2016 110 14 Str8Hoosiers 220 15 johnsoniu 110 15 jmsgws 219 16 jmsgws 109 16 fwgreenway 218 17 The Ola Depot 109 17 VPC 217 18 biteoftheapple 109 18 JHoosier914 217 19 Napleshoosier 109 19 The Ola Depot 216 20 rcs29 109 20 lucel15 214 21 mdn82 107 21 RBB89 213 22 lucel15 107 22 jbell833 213 23 VPC 106 23 CrossboneIU22 210 24 LamarCheeks 104 24 VO5 205 25 VO5 102 25 biteoftheapple 205 26 Old Friend 100 26 NaturalHoosier 202 27 jbell833 99 27 HoosierRobbie 199 28 NaturalHoosier 99 28 Josh 198 29 thebigweave 97 29 Old Friend 196 30 RBB89 96 30 e_powe11 192 31 e_powe11 96 31 Napleshoosier 169 32 CrossboneIU22 95 32 Class of '66 Old Fart 158 33 HoosierRobbie 95 33 Alaska Hoosier 117 34 Josh 95 34 Fkfootball1 117 35 Chris007 95 35 Dalton26 114 36 HOOsier Thunder 80 36 rcs29 109 37 Alaska Hoosier 0 37 coonhounds 107 38 Dalton26 0 38 Chris007 95 39 coonhounds 0 39 HOOsier Thunder 80 40 DChoosier 0 40 DChoosier 46

How does this work? Each week I will create Prediction League threads for the weeks game(s). It's a simple concept: Each week you start with 100 points (only if a prediction is made, otherwise 0 points for the week) +25 PTs if you guess the winner -25 PTs if you pick the loser +10 PTs if guess IU score correctly +10 PTs if guess Opponent score correct -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of IU (over/under doesn't matter) -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of opponent (over/under doesn't matter) *** Reminder if you post a prediction and want to change it, please just POST a NEW Prediction, do not edit a prior post as I may miss those edits. The person with the most points (MINUS 2 LOWEST GAMES) at the end of the season wins.

IU 24 Virginia 17

Here are the standings after Game #1 for the 2018 Season. Congrats to @coonhounds, @RBB89, & @thebigweave for correctly predicting IU's final score. CURRENT GAME - FIU OVERALL RANK Entry Name Score RANK Entry Name Score 1 thebigweave 124 1 thebigweave 124 2 IUc2016 120 2 IUc2016 120 3 LamarCheeks 119 3 LamarCheeks 119 4 Alaska Hoosier 117 4 Alaska Hoosier 117 5 HoosierAloha 117 5 HoosierAloha 117 6 mdn82 117 6 mdn82 117 7 RBB89 117 7 RBB89 117 8 ThompsonHoosier 116 8 ThompsonHoosier 116 9 CrossboneIU22 115 9 CrossboneIU22 115 10 Dalton26 114 10 Dalton26 114 11 jbell833 114 11 jbell833 114 12 johnsoniu 113 12 johnsoniu 113 13 IUsafety 111 13 IUsafety 111 14 mamasa 111 14 mamasa 111 15 VPC 111 15 VPC 111 16 jmsgws 110 16 jmsgws 110 17 MemphisHoosier 110 17 MemphisHoosier 110 18 coonhounds 107 18 coonhounds 107 19 lucel15 107 19 lucel15 107 20 The Ola Depot 107 20 The Ola Depot 107 21 WayneFleekHoosier 107 21 WayneFleekHoosier 107 22 fwgreenway 104 22 fwgreenway 104 23 HoosierRobbie 104 23 HoosierRobbie 104 24 KDB 104 24 KDB 104 25 JHoosier914 103 25 JHoosier914 103 26 Josh 103 26 Josh 103 27 NaturalHoosier 103 27 NaturalHoosier 103 28 VO5 103 28 VO5 103 29 Str8Hoosiers 100 29 Str8Hoosiers 100 30 LIHoosier 97 30 LIHoosier 97 31 biteoftheapple 96 31 biteoftheapple 96 32 e_powe11 96 32 e_powe11 96 33 Old Friend 96 33 Old Friend 96 34 Napleshoosier 60 34 Napleshoosier 60 35 Class of '66 Old Fart 46 35 Class of '66 Old Fart 46 36 DChoosier 46 36 DChoosier 46

How does this work? Each week I will create Prediction League threads for the weeks game(s). It's a simple concept: Each week you start with 100 points (only if a prediction is made, otherwise 0 points for the week) +25 PTs if you guess the winner -25 PTs if you pick the loser +10 PTs if guess IU score correctly +10 PTs if guess Opponent score correct -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of IU (over/under doesn't matter) -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of opponent (over/under doesn't matter) *** Reminder if you post a prediction and want to change it, please just POST a NEW Prediction, do not edit a prior post as I may miss those edits. The person with the most points (MINUS 2 LOWEST GAMES) at the end of the season wins.

I agree that would be better..... unfortunately I'm not sure how?? I have a spreadsheet with the results, that I just copy and paste

I was just going to continue the same thread from last year. Would ppl prefer a whole new thread this year?

IU 24 FIU 17

Yes I am for real. So the coaches can go and recruit another but there are supposed to be restrictions on that because the last guy they recruited decided to transfer, lets not put any restrictions on the kid whose choice it is but lets restrict others that can't make the choice, they should definitely face the consequences of a decision that they didn't make. As others have said, nobody is mentioning "mildly inconvenience" except you. And you are also the only one saying the "kids are being treated unfairly". I still don't get how it is unfair that they have consequences for their decisions. I am (and have been) trying to make valid points and explain my side, I appreciate the discussion, but at this point it appears you don't have anything else to add, just keep saying the same thing until it is accepted and have begun to sound irritated and condescending so we can just agree to disargee on the subject and move on so nobody else has to read a back and forth.

That is a rare case, but sometimes things just don't go how you hoped... doesn't give you a free pass. I didn't bring up the military but I don't see how the comparison is so silly as you call it. I can bring other examples but it won't help, you have decided. What about an NFL player choosing to not go to training camp... cost him a million dollars... his choice but he pays the consequences. Nobody is saying the student athlete doesn't have a choice, and as pointed out earlier they aren't even PUNISHED... but they do have consequences, which could be seen as more benefits of sitting a year. So you want the teams to have restrictions? How is it their fault if all the time and effort they put in recruiting a kid and he decides he wants to leave?

So if you choose your job and location then decide you don't like it can you choose to go elsewhere anytime you want?

I will admit I was never in the military and I have no idea, but I find it very surprising that in the military you get to negotiate a contract.... I would have assumed you sign on and they tell you what to do... but as I said I could be VERY wrong here. How is it silly? Both are things that a young person has a choice on. Both are things that open opportunities. Both are things that have rules in place and consequences if you break those rules.

It is your opinion that they are not being treated fairly. To me there are being treated fairly (Actually better than fairly). Just because there are consequences for a choice doesn't mean it is unfair. That is my entire point, all choices have consequences, sometimes you know them ahead of time sometimes you don't but either way you have to live with them. Why shouldn't they? Why should they get a free pass to do whatever they want and avoid any repercussions?

No actually I am saying that we shouldn't change this contract because it is a HORRIBLE idea (in my opinion). It is bad for the the game of college basketball, it is bad for the coaches, it is bad for the fans, it is bad for the universities... the ONLY thing/people that would benefit from making a change like this is the student athlete. And I don't believe their gain offsets all the rest of the loss to everybody else. Agreed they are not the same, you are trying to say the punishment for a coach should be the same as it is for a player (have to sit a season) but now you are agreeing that they aren't the same and they get to negotiate their contract. If a school wanted to put a clause in a coaches contract that if they left on their own free will they had to sit a season before coaching again then i would say that coach made his decision when signing the contract and sorry about his luck as well, he has to live with those consequences if he decides to break the contract later (I realize no coach would sign a contract with this stipulation at this time, but if it became a sweeping idea by universities then coaches would do it.) If you don't want a contract broken you put in stipulations that make it bad to break it.... for Student Athletes it is sitting a year, for coaches it is money, for Universities it is Buy-Outs (money). Each entity that enters into a contract does so with all the details and knows what is expected and what the repercussions are for not living up to the contract.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make here, I am missing it. You are correct a kid wouldn't choose to leave if they didn't think they could get on another team... They most definitely will, no matter if it is up a level, down a level, or on the same level, when a kid is transferring they ARE getting on another team. And if a Coach is leaving then he IS getting on another team. So as you said he has to pay back some money as a repercussion. Mythical Standard? Doesn't exist in the real world? What world is that? In the world I live in I have many choices to make and I have to deal with the consequences of those choices. What you are advocating for is there to be no consequences and no repercussions and that is absolutely NOT like the real world. That is the everybody gets a trophy mentality and that is not the way the real world works. Coaches and Players are NOT the same... a Coach is an employee and a player is not.... a Player doesn't make money (presumably) therefore there is no monetary repayment to be made... a Coach isn't on a short list of time eligibility therefore requiring them to sit isn't the same thing. A Coach gets paid under contract, so if they break that contract they pay it back or face the whatever repercussions are listed in the contract. The Student athlete has basically a contract for the scholarship and if he breaks it part of the language of this mythical contract are that if you transfer to another school to play a sport then you must sit out 1 year before being eligible... they know this upfront, if they still choose to transfer then they can but they must face the consequences of that choice.

Why would they CHOOSE to leave if they didn't have another job?