steubenhoosier

You obviously don’t read or follow the conversation. You asked whether the “holier than thou “ IU administration would stoop to hire someone like Pitino. I provided a point of reference that they had done so in the past with Sampson. Not really hard to follow.. Please provide your inside information to verify your claim about how this went down

So, you think that they didn’t know about guys not going to class? Or the rampant drug problem ? If you think there aren’t staff monitoring this stuff, I don’t know what to tell you.

They hired and put up with Sampson while he let the inmates run the asylum. So, yes.

I can’t believe that they would all 3 come out and say something without having been approached first

Not defensive at all Scott.

The article I quoted it’s in the second paragraph

The very first paragraph says that they expressed no interest in the job. That wouldn’t have happened out of the blue unless inquiries were made. My point being, this was more than a”wink wink, you’re hired Woody” process.

https://saturdaytradition.com/indiana-football/report-two-new-names-attached-to-indiana-basketballs-coaching-search/

Per an article by Bozich after the Miller firing, Steven’s, Rick Pitino and Nate Oates all turned down the job. They then interviewed Woodson and reached out to Matta, who could not pass the physical they requested. Sure sounds like a search to me.

Did you read my post? I said “I don’t know if he’s going to keep his job or not.” Does that sound like I’m defending him? My objection is the incessant, and imo over the top bashing of him, or any coach for that matter.. Someone said that I am just looking for ways to defend him.. which I am not. But when it’s insinuated that players are going out to the bars after the games and they are just following Woodson’s example because he was pictured having a glass of wine. That’s not reaching for it? This thread has gone on for 250 pages of people basically saying the same things, and attaboying each other. Open it up hoping that there is something new to learn. Instead it’s the same guys saying the same stuff. The hump jokes were old on page 2.

The difference being that Woodson was hired after there was an open search for a new coach

they work at a state university, they are. Despite what people like to believe when they talk about coaches’ salaries, though, they are only paid by the state whatever it is that someone of their educational level and tenure would make on the state’s salary schedule plus a stipend for time spent coaching football; this totals usually to less than $100K a year (often much less). Most of their salaries come from boosters, athletic department funds, shoe and equipment contracts, coaches’ TV and radio shows, and product endorsements A response to the question “Are coaches state employees.” Maybe you should know what you’re talking about before you laugh your @$$ right off… And this has nothing to do with Woodson. It has to do with hiring Pearl with an agreement that his son would be the next head coach

Sure it would. It’s a public institution funded by tax dollars. Pretty sure there is a hiring process for state employees

So would promising the son of a head coach that he would take over when dad retires. Would potentially open the university and its treasure chest to all kinds of nepotism and discrimination lawsuits.

IIRC, Crean was run out of Bloomington because his teams could only play one way. He had little capability to adjust to what his opponents were doing. Syracuse game was prime example. I don’t watch much SEC basketball but it sounds like Oates’ teams are similar.

Okay, Blind faith. Don’t think anyone who had achieved a level of success that they could afford to contribute is the NIL initiative would have believed that CMW was going to “crap his pants.” I don’t know if Woodson is going to keep his job or not, but the level of vitriol in this thread towards anyone associated with our basketball program is pathetic.

He also had a bunch of thugs on his team at IU.

Most did, huh? So those that funded our large NIL pot of money must have been idiots. Is that what you think?

Not sure what that has to do with the statement I quoted. That essentially CMW was riding on the coattails of Miller’s recruits

Trayce and Race were gone until CMW convinced them to stay. Doubt if JHS would have been a Hoosier if Woody wasn’t the coach

But you make a statement like it’s a done deal when in reality you don’t know anything.

And I agree with you that positive change needs to happen Sunshine pumper is just the kind of divisive term that fractures a fan base. How about not labeling and insulting people who have a different opinion than yours?

Again, trying to learn. Can’t use emojis here?

All I know is that some girl keeps saying that all she wants is to love and be loved

Your definition of “fan” would be interesting to hear