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With Cupps and Newton I wouldn’t classify 23 as a bust. Sure, missed on a number of targets, but could have been worse.
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As much as we’d want impact players, gotta be a good fit. Guys that accomplish their individual goals thru team success.
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On Love? Or others?
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From 1960 to 1979, Duke was ranked 132 times in the AP Poll. Others like UK, UNC or UCLA might be close to those numbers during that span, but Duke had been a quality program way before Coach K came along.
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IMHO (by that criteria) you can’t include UCLA. Wooden took over in 1948 and didn’t go to his 1st Final Four until two years after Duke. Yeah, they won a number of championships - primarily after Sam Gilbert became involved with the program. The others I completely understand your thinking.
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Everyone has opinions. For me, Duke has to be included in discussions of who is a Blue Blood. Besides their 5 titles, they’ve been runners up 6 times and in the Final Four 17 times. They’ve had sustained success over decades. And they have a great fanbase. Kids sleeping in tents to get best seats to games. Love em or Hate em, if we’re being honest we have to include them in any lists of Blue Bloods.
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That offer BETTER be really good. I’m not sure one exists.
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Don’t forget 63, 64 & 66 Final Four teams under Vic Bubas.
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My point wasn’t in trying to dog on Yogi. He was an incredible talent for his size who, had he had a different head coach/culture around him, would have matured much sooner. Gabe doesn’t have nearly the same physical tools Ferrell has. But his approach at the same age is so much different than Yogi’s was. Which is why I believe he is going to have a great freshman season.
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Believe what you want. As a freshman, Yogi had the core group of Hulls, Vic, Zeller et all that kept everyone together and focused on basketball. As a sophomore, Yogi was the leader - of having a good time. How does a team that has multiple 5*/4* players, McDonalds AA not even make the tournament? Does a FOCUSED leader allow an atmosphere that is devoid of accountability? You think Luke Fischer left after a semester because he was “homesick”? How is Hanner Perea getting arrested for DUI at 3am just hours after a game, right before the Purdue game? And don’t forget Yogi getting arrested trying to get into trying to get into Kilroys. The cop was gonna let him and Stan go until Yogi argued with him. You can never convince me all that happens under FOCUSED leadership. And, granted, a lot of the issue falls on Crean and his refusal to address issues within the program. But Yogi never became a true leader until after the Duke game. And that’s the truth.
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At times during his sophomore/junior years, I’d get really frustrated with Yogi over his play. Problem for him was who he had as a coach.
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Gabe - right now - isn’t a knock-down 3-pt shooter. At least he hasn’t shown that in his game. Yogi, fwiw, wasn’t his freshman year, either.
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Someone ain’t getting any lovin tonight . . . hehe Happy Birthday. Hope we all get to enjoy your birthday present.
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You’re leaving out maturity. Gabe is mentally ready and focused RIGHT NOW. Yogi - for all his 5* talent - never put it together until after the embarrassing Duke loss his Senior year. Had he played with that level of focus and maturity his sophomore and junior seasons, he could have had numbers no one could have ever touched.
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IF your standard truly defines Blue Blood, UConn would achieve the status with a win: 1999 - 90s 2004 - 2000s 2011, 2014 - 2010s 2023 - 2020s And you left out Duke. So, with a win Monday night UConn tops the Dookies?
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IF they win Monday night, they will have won 5 National Championships since 1999. No other team has won more than 3 in the same span.
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Yogi had good leaders his freshman year. His sophomore/junior seasons he was the leader - and was more interested in leading the partying than basketball. He could have produced massive numbers if he’d have matured before his senior season.
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It’s a culture thing.
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Yogi had more physical talent. Gabe - at he same age - sees the floor better and makes better decisions. Both are/were really great point guards.
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Yogi was quicker. Gabe is more mature and, if he had Ferell’s quickness, he’d be a top-10 recruit.
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Dusty May - FAU HC - Former IU student manager
Tasmanian Devil replied to ISP's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Big mistake not waiting until shot clock to shoot . Gave SDSt the extra time to get a good shot. -
Let’s quit effin around
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Open your eyes, look up to the skies
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Caught in a landslide
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Nigel was money well spent. UK didn’t close to the ROI they should’ve.
