Tasmanian Devil

Kansas was trying to sell McNeeley on playing together with Flagg. With the cancellation of Glagg’s visit, the “he ain’t good” has already begun: https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/2024-recruits-188144063/?page=56#M217382870

Don’s the best. One of the most down-to-earth people that you’ll ever meet.

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can’t understand how any IU fan can justify a Purdue player being top 100 when evidence clearly indicates otherwise.

Thought Edey was best player? TJD? Definitely a AA, not best player.

People can also get healthy and not have nagging injuries affect their play. Loyer was healthy all year, correct?

Out of 35 games Loyer shot below 30% twelve times - including an 0-9 stretch late in the season against Illinois and Rutgers.

Considering the competition I would’ve been expecting 12-13. How many shots did Loyer take total? Holy cow, how do you miss 90% + of regular FG attempts against - at best - D2 level competition?

He shot 31% from the arc but 23% from the floor? How many top 100 guys you know that miss enough layups to drop your shooting percentage 8 points?

And had the benefit of a more complete team around him. Classic example of the Steve Alford rule. What’s that, you say? ‘87 title game Keith Smart dominated the second half, scoring 17 of his 21 points and hitting the winner from the baseline corner. Expectations were high that Smart would dominate for the Hoosiers the next season - but Smart and Indiana struggled throughout 1987-88. Why? Go back and look at the championship: Alford drawing the Syracuse defense to him created the lanes which Smart was able to exploit. Take Alford away, and Smart’s effectiveness dropped exponentially. That’s essentially what everyone is trying to tell you about Loyer. Not a bad player at all, but one that is heavily reliant on the presence of Edey to have an impact. In no way is he a top 100 player.

Painter has a good system that enables him to hide deficiencies. But overall Loyer will need to improve substantially to get to Jordy level.

The team that beat them was better.

I agree. 1975 Indiana, 1991 UNLV and 2015 Kentucky are great examples of that. Purdue - under the right circumstances - could have won a title last year. But, again, that roster makeup relies on certain matchups for success. And the deeper they would go in the tournament, the greater chance of have Smith, Loyer and Morton being a matchup liability would have grown substantially. And Purdue never had consistent 3-pt shooting to help overcome the lack of athleticism (32.2% as a team; Smith best at 37%). Purdue was good - and, if EVERYTHING was clicking, they could be really good. But in their roster makeup and skill level there was just too much to overcome to win a championship. Possible? Maybe. Likely? No.

Your fallacy is considering Purdue “arguably the best team in the nation.” That’s not Boiler hate talking, either. Purdue was going to end up losing at some point in the tournament because of the three positions I mentioned earlier - Morton, Loyer, and Smith. The total lack of athleticism and ability to cover would require another great athlete to go along with Edey down low - and they just don’t have it. FDU out-quicked them, but it was only a matter of time before somebody would be able to match up enough with Edey down low to be able to exploit the rest of the team.

Look who Jordy had around him. Then look at who Loyer has around him. Sure, he has Edey down low defensively, which allows him to apply pressure a bit more. But besides Edey, the Boilers had Mason Gilles, Braden Smith, and Ethan Morton. Compare that trio to C-Wat, Vic and Yogi. THAT lack of athleticism is exactly why the Boilers lost to FDU. And Loyer - while a good player - doesn’t have that physical ability. Which is WHY he doesn’t belong in the top 100.

Ok - I can agree with that

John Higgins begs to differ.

Yep. Can’t wait until December. KU needs an a$$-beating in the worst way possible.

Unbelievable amount of arrogance - I’m sure he was singing Liam’s praises up until he finds out he’s likely going to IU. Then (in his eyes) he says not a good fit, not athletic enough, etc . . . I don’t know if recruits ever read message boards, but that would piss me off if I’m Liam.

https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/2024-recruits-188144063/?page=46#M216422778 I don’t know 100% that McNeeley is coming (like 99.9999999999999999%), but the pre-meltdown rationalizing on the Kansas board is hilarious. Woody is in their heads 24/7/365.

Let me make another prediction: Queen ends up in Candy Stripes no matter how many/few visits he makes.

I like that thinking

What this guy said.